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Should Don Imus be fired for his comments on the Rutgers women's basketball team? To quickVOTE, bottom right: http://www.cnn.com/

Imus should lose show, critics say

POSTED: 8:24 p.m. EDT, April 8, 2007



Story Highlights• Racist comment should cost radio host his job, black leaders say
• Sharpton: Apology accepted; resignation should be too
• Essence editor: Apology is "too little, too late"
• Imus called Rutgers women's basketball players "nappy-headed hos"


NEW YORK (AP) -- Unimpressed by his on-air apology or corporate promises of a tighter leash, critics of syndicated radio host Don Imus are calling for his dismissal over his comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team.

"I accept his apology, just as I want his bosses to accept his resignation," said the Rev. Al Sharpton.

He promised to picket Imus' New York radio home, WFAN-AM, if the veteran of nearly 40 years of anything-goes broadcasting isn't gone within a week.

Sharpton was not alone in his anger over Imus' description of the Rutgers women, most of whom are black, as "nappy-headed hos" during a Wednesday morning segment of his show.

The Imus show airs for millions of listeners on more than 70 stations and the MSNBC television network.

On Friday, after Imus delivered an on-air apology, both WFAN and MSNBC condemned his remarks. WFAN issued a statement promising to "monitor the program's content" but Imus, a member of the National Broadcasters Hall of Fame, was not publicly disciplined.

The National Association of Black Journalists, the editor-in-chief of Essence magazine and a New York sports columnist joined the chorus against Imus.

"What he has said has deeply hurt too many people -- black and white, male and female," said NABJ President Bryan Monroe. "His so-called apology comes two days after the fact, and it is too little, too late."

Angela Burt Murray of Essence magazine called on Imus' bosses to take a harder stance over his "unacceptable" remarks. "It needs to be made clear that this type of behavior is offensive and will not be tolerated without severe consequences," Murray said.

Columnist Filip Bondy of the Daily News, in a column headlined "Imus spews hate, should be fired," said the radio star "should be axed for one of the most despicable comments ever uttered on the air."

The Rutgers team, which includes eight black women, lost the NCAA women's championship game Tuesday, and Imus was discussing the game with producer Bernard McGuirk.

"That's some rough girls from Rutgers," Imus said. "Man, they got tattoos ..."

"Some hardcore hos," said McGuirk.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for WFAN's parent company, CBS Radio, said Saturday there was no additional comment on the Imus situation.

Imus' success has often been a result of his on-air barbs.

"That Imus is in trouble for being politically incorrect is certainly not new," said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio. "He's lived his life in and out of trouble. ... This is something CBS will be watching very carefully."

Recent controversies involving Imus focused on a member of his morning team, Sid Rosenberg, who was fired two years ago after a particularly vile crack about cancer-stricken singer Kylie Minogue. Before that, a racially tinged comment by Rosenberg about Venus and Serena Williams stirred another controversy.

The NABJ cited two other incidents in which Imus himself insulted two black journalists. Imus has called PBS' Gwen Ifill a "cleaning lady" and described William Rhoden of The New York Times as "a quota hire," the group said.

Sharpton said he was writing to the Federal Communications Commission about Imus' remarks.

"This is not some unemployed comic like Michael Richards," Sharpton said, alluding to the "Seinfeld" actor who used the N-word and referred to lynching in a rant last year. "This is an established figure, allowed to use the airwaves for sexist and racist remarks."

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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Yes..he should go..
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April 9, 2007
The Media Equation

With Imus, They Keep Coming Back



By DAVID CARR

“Imus in the Morning” is scheduled to start this morning like any other, with Don Imus and his crew cracking wise about the weekend’s events, riffing off the news and chatting with Evan Thomas, one of Newsweek’s top guns. Later Tom Oliphant, Washington author and former op-ed columnist for The Boston Globe, will check in for some political talk.

Given that Mr. Imus spent part of last week describing the student athletes at Rutgers as “nappy-headed ho’s,” you might think he’d have trouble booking anyone, let alone A-list establishment names. But Mr. Imus, who has been given a pass for this sort of comment in the past, also generously provides airtime to those parts of the news media and political apparatus that would generally be expected to bring him to account.

Mr. Imus’s comment about the Rutgers team last week was not just, as they say, over the line — you can’t even see the line from where he landed. It was not a gaffe, a slip of the tongue, a joke in poor taste. (Nor was the on-air comment to Mr. Imus by the show’s longtime producer, Bernard McGuirk, calling the women’s final the “Jigaboos vs. the Wannabees,” in a bad attempt to borrow a phrase from a Spike Lee movie.) Mr. Imus’s slur was the kind of unalloyed racial insult that might not have passed muster on a low-watt AM station in the Jim Crow South.

On Thursday, before his employers knew they had a growing public-relations problem on their hands, Mr. Imus suggested that everyone needed to relax and should not be offended by “some idiot comment meant to be amusing.” (Which part was supposed to be funny? The nappy-head or the ho’s?)

That’s not to say that everyone at MSNBC, which simulcasts the show, and its owner NBC (a unit of the General Electric Company), along with CBS Radio, which owns WFAN and syndicates the show, wasn’t terribly, terribly sorry. Before apologizing, network executives at MSNBC pointed out that, “ ‘Imus in the Morning’ is not a production of the cable network and is produced by WFAN Radio,” which is a little like saying that they did not manufacture a bomb, they only delivered it.

This isn’t the first time that Mr. Imus has trolled these waters: he once called Gwen Ifill, then working at The New York Times, “a cleaning lady” and described one of the paper’s sports columnists, William C. Rhoden, as a “quota hire.” Both of those journalists are black, but Mr. Imus’s defenders like to point out that he is an equal-opportunity misanthrope whose show displays 360-degree offensiveness toward all sorts of ethnicities, sexual orientations and religious affiliations.

Although the Web has been alive with calls for sanctions against Mr. Imus — the clip is available for all to see on YouTube — mainstream media have remained relatively silent. He is, after all, popular, good at his job and, perhaps more important, he generously provides oxygen — and an audience — to the kind of journalistic and political elites who would be expected to demand his head on a pike.

He is, to borrow one of the show’s metaphors, a lawn jockey to the establishment. Few politicians, big or small, pass up a chance to bump knees with Mr. Imus, in part because his show is one of the few places where they can talk seriously and at length about public issues. Senator John Kerry has stopped by. Senator John McCain is on frequently. And Senators Joseph I. Lieberman and Joseph R. Biden are part of a legion eager to sit in the guest chair.

NBC News uses “Imus in the Morning” to promote the brands of Tim Russert, Andrea Mitchell and David Gregory. Tom Brokaw was a frequent guest, and his replacement, Brian Williams, has been sanctified by the I-man, as they call him. Chris Matthews from MSNBC has appeared, as have anchors and journalists from CNN and CBS and, on the print side, by reporters and editors from Newsweek and popular opinion columnists from The New York Times.

“Whatever problem there was, I think that he took care of with his statement of Friday,” said Mr. Oliphant, one of the guests scheduled for this morning. “It was classic Imus. He said he screwed up and he was sorry. Bang. Bang. It was very much to the point, and did not offer any excuses.”

The other guest scheduled today said the show must go on. “He should not have said what he said, obviously,” said Mr. Thomas of Newsweek. “I am going on the show, though. I think if I didn’t, it would be posturing. I have been going on the show for quite some time and he occasionally goes over the line.” Mr. Imus may rib his exalted guests, but he generally stays away from the racial humor and invective that is part of the connective tissue of the rest of the show. Perhaps that gives the politicians and opinion makers enough plausible deniability to sit comfortably across from Mr. Imus.

There have been temporary breakups in the long-running affair. After Mr. Imus stepped over quite a few lines at the dinner of the Radio and Television Correspondents’ Association in 1996, Cokie Roberts, now an analyst for ABC News, said, “Now none of us can go on his show again.” But she went back; they always do.

To borrow another trope from Mr. Imus — in a conversation last year on the show with Mr. Matthews, he reworked the title of “Brokeback Mountain” in into a bit of homophobic, gross-out humor — they just can’t quit him. (MSNBC was sorry for that one, too.)

Part of the reason that his corporate owners are eager to apologize, eager for the latest gaffe to blow over, is so that they can get back to counting the lucre he generates. Mr. Imus has been a boon for MSNBC because he provides a cheap and effective way for the third-ranked cable news network to compete in the morning (it doesn’t cost a lot to film a radio show). CNN recently switched morning anchors in part because of the ratings strength that Mr. Imus was generating.

On the radio, Mr. Imus may have lost some of the heat that he used to generate — Talkers magazine, a trade publication, ranked him 14th among United States radio hosts — but he is still the go-to guy for selling books, in part because when he becomes interested in a book, he will flog it for days and sometimes weeks.

He fills a demand for serious discussion on contemporary radio so that the journalists and politicians pushing an agenda or a book don’t have to get in line behind the strippers at Howard Stern’s show.

So who is left to hold Mr. Imus accountable? For the time being, that would be the Rev. Al Sharpton, who told The Associated Press, “I accept his apology, just as I want his bosses to accept his resignation.” (Late yesterday, Mr. Imus agreed to go on Mr. Sharpton’s syndicated radio show today.)

It is hard to say how much coverage the protests will get. Had Fox’s Bill O’Reilly said what Mr. Imus said, he might have been confronted with pitchforks and torches outside his studio. Last month, after Ann Coulter used a homophobic term to describe presidential candidate John Edwards, she received opprobrium from dozens of media outlets, including MSNBC, which featured a running count of the number of outlets that had dropped her column. Earlier this year, Mr. Biden got creamed for describing Senator Barack Obama as “clean” and “articulate.”

Mr. Imus’s friends will tell you that he is not a racist in his heart. But what is or is not in the heart of a radio talk show host is much less important than what comes out of his mouth.

Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/business/media/09carr.html?pagewanted=print
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Yes, I thought he should have been canned years ago, when he called Venus Williams "an animal" and said "F--- the Jews."

No one should be allowed to use the public airwaves to spew hate speech.
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The cantakerous outspoken Imus commands a large listening audience which amounts to good ratings. Nuff said.
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I was just as shocked by the comments of MSNBC commentator Don Imus when referring to the Rutgers University women's basketball team as anyone else.


I mean, it doesn't get much worse than being referred to as a "nappy-headed ho" on national television. The team, which includes eight Black women, had lost the day before in the NCAA women's championship game. Imus was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk about the game when the exchange began on the show, which is broadcast to millions of people on more than 70 stations and the MSNBC television network.


And while I am joining the chorus of Blacks calling for the immediate firing of Imus from MSNBC, I am also turning a critical eye on us. On any given day of week, million of Blacks condone the use of the word ho being used to refer to the Black woman.


Rappers commonly refer to the women in their songs and videos as hos and bitches. In fact, it's celebrated in rap music. The reality is that what Imus said was despicable and downright deplorable and yes he should be fired for it.


But the door was opened a long time ago for the degrading of Black women, and it was opened by us. When Black men began to make a living, and a good one at that, off of calling us hos, bitches and other derogatory terms, sooner or later it was going to become ok for others to do it.


And I am not blaming us for Imus' racism and stupidity, but I am pointing out the fact that many Blacks, including Black women support rap artists who degrade them and in fact refer to themselves as "hos" and "bitches" much in the way that a large number of Blacks refer to themselves as "nigga."


So, at the end of the day, while we can and should be demand for Imus to fired, we should also be turning to ourselves and reexamining why in 2007, people still think it's ok to degrade and disrespect us.


I mean if 50 Cents can call you a ho and you bounce your hips to it, then what's to say some white male television commentator can't do the same? What's the difference?


Exactly. It's kind of hard to demand respect from others, when you can't even get it from your own. And as would be expected, because it's an attack on Black women, cooler heads must prevail and the network must review the Imus situation.


All the while, you and I both know that had Imus replaced the word nappy with frizzy, not only would he be out of a job and probably in protective custody, but the MSNBC building would probably be burnt to crisp. And if he had replaced the word hos with dykes or "carpet munchers," you better believe there would be no reviewing the matter coming out of MSNBC, he'd have been fired the same day. Only when it comes to Black people does it require this careful thought process about what the appropriate punishment should be.


At the end of the day, if we're going to call for Imus to be fired, and we should, we should also turn attention to the rappers that also call Black women hos and turn a profit off of it. I don't know what's worse, being called a ho by some white man or being called a ho by a Black man.


Black Star News columnist Cannick is a commentator/critic who addresses social, cultural, and race issues and is based in Los Angeles. She can be reached via her website at www.jasmynecannick.com.


http://blackstarnews.com/?c=135&a=3199
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it is so ironic that the most prominent black figures in the media "outraged" about Imus' slip-up concerning BLACK WOMEN:

1) Are MALE

2) Have (silent) wives who evade "nappy headedness" at all costs.

3) THEMSELVES have conks, perms, press-n-curl, dry curl, etc. Not a hair strand out of place.

Don't think for one minute our black-skinned kinky headed children haven't noticed these GRAVE inconsistencies. Up in arms over that racist dog Imus, but we blacks still won't put our own stinkin a$$e$ in check about our own self-image. Who the fruck cares, then?

You need "Nappy-Headed" sistas to speak on "Nappy-Headed" issues. We'll set the record straight. Leave these fried head, penguin-suit wearin ambulance chasers alone. We will continue to get nowhere with these disingenuous mysogynist creeps speaking for us.

Imus is but one racist pig. Oust him and there'll be a whole lotta red necks in line to fill his spot. How do you think he's stayed in the SAME spot for twenty some odd years? Who has signed his checks? Who sponsors his shows? The answer is obvious. If we are really serious, hit him where it hurts. Hurt his supporters. This little public slap on hand, two week suspension ain't nuttin but some light-hearted damage control. NBC and IMUS know this.
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While I agree that some black folk still have their hair processed because they want to liken themselves to white folks', I doubt the majority of black folk, men and women, who proces their hair do...

yes, some folk are brainwashed, but others just do it because it reflects their own independent tastes, shaped by their locality and cultural practices.

I don't know about that toubobie...i thought being free meant having the right to choose what you want to wear, drink, to work, to obtain an education, etc...

In the 80s when folk started wearing locks it signified their embrace of black culture and aesthetics...now [and of course not all] it just another style that has nothing to do with reverence for African or black culture....

Now if we were talkin bout contacts lens....thats another story, but....anyways, i think you get my point.
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IMO - Don Imus should be strung by the balls to a pole, tree, or tall fence. He's the scum of the earth and being fired is not enough!

Tabooger - Black people straighten their hair because it's easier to manage that way. It has nothing to do with self-hatred.


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"anyways, i think you get my point."

Yukio, no brother. I think you get your point and that's a great thing. However, fact still remains there ain't one nappy-headed prominent black leader and that ain't by accident. It is VERY deliberate. It's the hypocrisy I have a problem with, not how they wear their hair.

Mzerk,
Why, then, don't you read the label from that poison you slap on your pea head... do some research on the sulfuric acid and metals found in perms and hair straightening products. How these (among others) are cancer-causing agents. How they permeate through your ENTIRE body, affecting all life functions. How they build up in your body and blood over time. Is it still worth it?

On a more profound level, we have to understand the biological and social consequences of how we physically express ourselves as a people. As we ALL know, freedom comes with a price.
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I disagree, Yukio. Name another group of people that pays 60 to 80 $ every four weeks to have scabs burned into their scalps. Most of us won't spend that type of money to send our children to private schools but we make sure we have it to waste on our hair. The pain, the money, the sacrificing of other more important needs: what a peculiar choice.
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...and the 60 to 80 $ is only for the week you've decided to get a perm. It's not including the 40 to 60 $ you're paying all the other weeks, if you're the type to get your hair done once a week.
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I agree, Yukio. Black folks always want to dictate to each other how blackness should be presented. I'm sure the phrase "do your own thing" had its origin in the black vernacular and non-whites should be able to indulge their individual prefences just like all other ethnic groups. There are other arenas where it's more important for blacks to display their racial unity. And speaking of vernacular, pardon me while I crack up laughing. I get kidded about using the word "jive" and, I swear, the words "conk" and "process" date back to the 1940s and 50s!
As for Imus, he apologized and has been reduced to groveling, so after letting him swing in the breeze a little longer, we should just move on. Black folks do, after all, make fun of whites on black radio.
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Vanity is expensive, and black women aren't the only ones rejecting the over-rated au naturelle look. Give them credit for not going overborad with plastic surgery or with injecting poisonous botox into their foreheads. And has there been any kind of study about the dangerous effects of the chemicals used in perms and dyes? People of all races have been getting perms and coloring their hair since waaay back in the 1920s. These solutions have been greatly improved over the years and don't contain the lye which burns scabs into people scalps. The chemicals in deodorants and acne medicine and the foods we eat are examples of how everything has the potential to be harmful nowadays.
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lol...you have some black women saying "i'm not nappy-headed or a hoe so why should i be offended?" i think that quote represents another big problem that we have with this if it doesnt affect me then why should i care mentality.

i was jsut discussing this topic at another board and that's what most of the black women were saying....but i guess it depends on which messageboard you visit because on the others they're saying the opposite...still i think there's a huge problem that many of us have with selfishness.
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anyway, here's the thread they were discussing it at

http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=10 1318760&page=0&EntryID=33573099&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=0&lastpagesent=2&My token=0E6F5E62-D096-4F08-AC52484577BED21317804980
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Toubobie: But where is the hypocrisy if you don't have a problem with their hairdo?

Besides stating a shopping list of ambiguous barbs, you haven't said anything beyond the "penguin-suit wearin ambulance chasers['s]" hairdo.


Tonya: I hear you, but I would argue that white people spend more time tanning themselves via lotion, spas, trips to hot places, etc...than black folk spend on getting their do did...and we know that these white folk do not want to be a N-gga!

Also, what people do with their money is their business. Perhaps, what you describe is demonstrative of their misplaced priorities not self-hate.

Finally, and more to the point, I really do not think you can look at a person and determine how much they love/embrace their self-image.

There are too many people walkin around in naturals, locks, and the like hating black folk...

And the argument that "Nappy-Headed" sistas [need] to speak on "Nappy-Headed" issues" I agree with wholeheartedly...but I hope that a sista with a perm should also be able to speak on the issue too!

Because if it is really about the culture and not the hairdo, then we shouldn't allow the absence of a certain hairdo/style determine how a person views their own culture.

It is like, in order to love black people, you have to wear a certain kind of paraphernalia, and walk around with a placard...as if being "black" was like being on a team...[though viewing our plight as a war is a metaphor I do like to use].
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Tabooger - Thank you for your concern of my physical well-being, but there are other ways to straighten the hair besides chemically. Haven't you ever heard of a hot comb or curling iron?
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look at imus ugly troll looking ass...where does he have room to talk about anyone's appearance. not only that but his hair is all over his head yet he wants to talk about black womens hair...he looks like an old decrepit version of carrot top
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how is straight hair easier to manage then nappy? just being honest I guess you have blacks who dont even know how to do their natural hair right Mzuri? I always known nappy hair easier to manage then permed new growth have to be styled etc.
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Disenchanted - Aren't you the one who is raising her sons to breed with white women in order to cleanse the Negroid gene pool and produce offsprings with "good hair?" Who the fukc are you to question me about SHIT that I wrote. Kiss my BLACKITY BLACK ASS and die you asswipe!!!

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Toubobie: But where is the hypocrisy if you don't have a problem with their hairdo?

Besides stating a shopping list of ambiguous barbs, you haven't said anything beyond the "penguin-suit wearin ambulance chasers['s]" hairdo.


Yukio:
A shopping list of ambiguious barbs, huh? well here's one more... you must have a very small penis to be so reactionary about a subject which I am actually agreeing with you on. If that isn't the case, then what the f*ck is wrong with you?

As 'leaders' they ought not to expect different results, if they themselves are not willing to admit the obvious. Again there is no coincidence that ALL these attention-seekers are "conked out." Why should they expect their 'flock' to desire anything more than the European standards these black men promote? If there is nothing wrong with nappy hair, what's up with the Duke Ellington, Al B Sure hairdos they faithfully wear?

The insanity is that these jack-a$$e$ vocalize that they expect different behavior from their followers AND that they expect yt like Imus not to see through their bull shit. As far as Imus is concerned, he's just going with the flow. I remind you that he is using OUR jargon, not something that yt has contrived. WE TEACH YT THIS FILTH through our music and self-hating culture (i.e. hairstyles). H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y!
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"Tabooger - Thank you for your concern of my physical well-being, but there are other ways to straighten the hair besides chemically. Haven't you ever heard of a hot comb or curling iron?"

Ah... yeah, Mzerk... hot combs and curling irons are flying off the shelves faster than the chemicals... yeah right. You don't even believe that yourself.

On a serious note though, older women ought to consider leaving the chemical alone (nudges Mzerk)
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Booger - I don't use dyes and chemicals, I can only speak for myself and I don't know the statistics of hotcombs vs. perms
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Mzuri you hav zero class proven by that last post FYI I wear my hair natural 80 perfent of my life and much easier to wear nappy hair then processesd and FACTS have nothing to do with my sons or who I want them to marry FYI I never said I want them to marry "white" you just dont pay attention to what you read and your mouth needs to be washed out. Why are you so high strung and no class at all? Geta grip and stop nobodys entertained.

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Toubobie: Reactionary? LOL! Speak for yourself!

You're the one submitting to spewing filth flarn filth...what's wrong with you?

Thanks for agreeing with me....though I dont know what.

From the above article, I didn't read anything about "leaders" "expect[ing] different results" from black people...that is your agenda, your issue, and your problem...LOL!

Handle that, and stay out of my pants! LOL!
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Disenchanted - The more you post, the more I'm convinced that you are nothing but a figment of someone's warped imagination.
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yukio,

i raised the issue, and not the article. Great comprehension skills.

I agree (with you) that blacks ought to express their "freedom" and wear whatever hairstyles they please. I couldn't care less. BUT leaders under the public microscope ought to shut the hell up about defending naps, when they themselves APPARENTLY resist naps (vis-a-vis the CONK!).

JESUS! Get over yourself! And NO! ALL men who cross my path are subject to random penis inspections and that includes you, little man...
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Nahhhh. Leave Don the f-u-ck alone. He's just a bit player. Tell the sister's to first get their shuck'n'jivin asses off of their shoulders and funky football field-wide behinds before complaining about what everybody knows is the truth in many locales.
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Mzuri I said that like mixed people hair BETTER but I mysel am not mixed I am black and natural hair do you read? I said I would like it if my son marry mixed black girl with mixed hair because I think those babies are still 100% black but cuter you are confusing the subjects just because I like mixed hair better do not mean I dont have nappy hair and know how to wear nappy hair I do and was raised to wear natural style its very EASY.
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We should stop thinking that having NAPPY (what is nappy anyway?) HAIR is insulting. I like being nappy(a relative term) I want to live "Nappily Ever After" (read the book, it's good!) Even white girls can have nappy hair--they just call it "frizzy" that's why I said NAPPY is a relative term.

NO I'm not excusing IMUS his hair is nappy and he's UGLY! But as someone pointed out he has been saying this type shit for YEARS just like Rush Limbaugh and all the others like them
No one should be given a platform to spew racist thoughts and should know that there are repercussions if they choose to do so!
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Has the NCAA, the WNBA, NBA and other sports associations that have high numbers/%'s made in public statements condemning Imus' words?
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I heard a reprsentative from the NCAA on NPR yesterday expressing outrage. Why should the NBA make public statements about this matter? There are enough racist statements about black ballers for David Stern to deal with.
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Robinmarie,

The NBA owns the WNBA which is a professional basketball league for women. So, ultimately, slights against female basketball players hurt the interests of the NBA. And it might be a great show of solidarity for the more powerful NBA to condemn what Imus did.
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It would be nice if the b-ballers made public statements condemning Imus.

With few exceptions like Etan Thomas, pro atheletes don't say anything related to current events or politics. It's the Michael Jordan legacy. They could all take a lesson from Muhammed Ali.

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Robynmarie,

I agree that Jordan's silence on many social, cultural issues has spoken VOLUMES for those who've succeeded him.

MJ may have been as great an athlete as Ali. But he's not the man that Ali was and still is.
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Toubobie wrote:
I agree (with you) that blacks ought to express their "freedom" and wear whatever hairstyles they please. I couldn't care less. BUT leaders under the public microscope ought to shut the hell up about defending naps, when they themselves APPARENTLY resist naps (vis-a-vis the CONK!).

It's interesting, to me, at least, and very telling, that most folks are focusing in and so worried being the hair (naps) portion of the insult, as if being referred to a ho' ain't all that bad. Talk about zooming in a tree and missing the forest.
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Jmho,

What "forest" are you referring to?
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Jmho,

I have narrowwed in on, "zoomed in" on one aspect of this debate by citing "nap" concerns. You have zoomed in on another aspect, citing "ho" concerns. nap+ho = nap(py) ho. All points covered. Well what'd ya know, we're a team, JmHO!
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Would Al Sharpton being trying to get Tom Joyner or Steve Harvey fired if they said what Imus said?
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ABM. You're on point.

We woud have shucked and JIVEd as usual if it were Joyner and Harvey. We have no problem with the dozens and yo mamma jokes? Why is it acceptable when we degrade ourselves through our music and entertainment, platforms that ought to UPLIFT our people, but instead we deliberately seek to target and destroy through these mechanisms.

We ought to support and promote the few positive messages we have out there like India.Arie's "I am not my hair, I am not this skin, I am the soul that lives within. At the turn of the century, it's time for us to redefine who we be."

These lyrics speak directly to this issue. If we are not ready to deal with our own funk, we will get nowhere. Remember Spike Lee's "Bamboozled?" When the whites only laughed once they saw certain blacks laughing at the black-face routines? We have a responsibility to put an end to ALL of this foolishness, only then will the world take us seriously.

Why is Imus the sole-target here and not Def Comedy Jam and rap music, etc.?
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I agree, JMHO. Calling Rutgers' players 'hos is what can be construed as insulting. Nappy hair isn't an insult unless you're using white standards. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are going to milk this issue for all it's worth because it provides them with the attention they crave. Imus is just a symtom of the disease and I'm sure he has the silent support of his large white audience and, like it or not, they count just as much as irate black people do. To them, Imus' gaffe ain't that serious. Imus has been suspended and raked over the coals and his future guest lists will be devoid of the high profile politically-correct crowd; that's his punishment.
This whole brouhaha is an example of how hip-hop has influenced the media, becoming a pace setter for pop culture as well as ad campaigns, even giving MacDonald's its "Mickey D" nickname. We are now witnessing an interesting phenomenon, - seeing what happens when hip-hop lingo become incorporated into common usuage, as in the cases of "diss" - and 'ho! Imus should have just referred to the Rugers players as being "bootylicious" and he'd still be on the air. BTW, from what I could see none of Rutgers' black players hair was in a nappy state.
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Toubobie: lol! Your personal attacks speak more of your own shortcomings than mine.

You can bring up issues, but no one is allowed to engage you unless they agree...LOL!

At any rate, I know that you can care less about their hairdo, my point, if I can "raise the issue" AGAIN, is that you are imposing a litmus test that ultimately silences legitmate critique of racism.

MLK was a hoochie, who drank and smoked cigarettes! Now dont get me wrong, i'm not comparing him to A. Sharpton, but no one can pass these litmus test....

And your basis of whether a person is a legitimate advocate is predicated on a limited sense of authenticity.

The way you're going, everyone has become an advocate of black people or they will be silenced...and as if illustrative here, if they engage, dare i say even politely, they are personally attacked...LOL!

You are Imus and I am the women's basketball team [metaphorically speaking of course]!
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JHMO: I agree...its similar to the case when Richards used the N-word, and people forgot about the lynching component!
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I warned you guys about him months ago. He has been doing this for years and this is just the most gratuitous and stupid example.

I think what he needs is a good ole, downhome country asswhuppin' right on the air.
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The Rutgers' team was on the news. None, by the way, was wearing a natural hairstyle. All had press 'n curls/weaves. Was Imus just trying show us he knows a "black" word by called them "nappy headed"? Their coach is very impressive and eloquent.

Tom Joyner would not call a group of children nappy head hoes, jiggabos or wannabes, so that question is irrelevant.
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Yukio,

Re-examine your own initial post to me, then get back to me about personal attacks.

Keep your litmus tests and analytical fodder for someone who actually gives a fr*ck. I've stated MY position. State yours without chronically piggy-backing off of other posters, debating them on things which aren't even being contested.

I am not silencing anything. These d*ck head leaders are a bunch of self-serving hypocrits. THEY know where the battle needs to be fought and its not on some picket line when the cameras are on, brah. It's at the bank. It's all about the green, but if they are to fight this powerful fight in silence, then their air time will be considerably dwindled. Any they can't have that, right?

Where are these SAME "anti-racist/ anti-sexist" assholes when Snoop and the like Doggy Dog black women out? I tell you where, they're sittin up in a salon somewhere gettin their hair pin-curled, or probably knee-deep in some p*ssy, that's where. F*CK'em.
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I commend all parties involved, including Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, for standing up for Black women and girls. The ladies & men at Rutgers, The National Association of Black Journalists, The NAACP, The Urban League and others have all renewed my faith in our direction as a people. We are still good.

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Where are these SAME "anti-racist/ anti-sexist" assholes when Snoop and the like Doggy Dog black women out? I tell you where, they're sittin up in a salon somewhere gettin their hair pin-curled, or probably knee-deep in some p*ssy, that's where. F*CK'em.


(That is a flat out lie. Imush don't need toilet paper when he got you)
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Most of them were wearing braids when these pics were taken






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The term "nappy headed hoes" doesn't even sound like something a racist white guy would even say...he must be a secret hip hop fan.
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He sounds like a Bill Cosby fan to me--he looks at black female scholar athletes and he sees nappy headed hoes.

Whatever punishment that the young ladies want him to get is fine with me. I think he should be beated until he is bleeding from the ass.

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Have the white players on the Rutgers team made any statements?
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"nappy headed ho" and "bald headed ho" are interchangeable terms

here is a rap song named "bald headed ho" by a black rapper I was able to dig up..

"While he was on the cutting edge of political rap, Willie D was not one to appreciate women that hacked too much off the top. That’s right ladies, he had a song called “Bald Head Hoes,” which was funny as Dave Chappelle. Check the lyrics if you think I lie.


“What the f**k is goin on in this gotdamn world
What are you b***h a boy or a girl?
I can't tell cause your [hair] on the sides is gone
You remind me of that monkey lookin’ b***h Grace Jones
F***ed up is how you look to Willie D
I just gotta have a b***h that has more hair than me
Some try to cover up by weavin’ it through
You ain't foolin’ nobody
We know you’re bald headed too”

I knew Don had to get it from somewhere.
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Imus and Michael Richards aint' dead yet. They can get an act together and go on tour, maybe as an opening act for Toby Keith or any of those red neck country and western stars. They could even present the trophy at a NASCAR race. Face it, folks. These 2 jerks have a large constituency
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No wonder Booty is braindead. She listens to Willie D
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BB123,

That girl in the center with the peacock-looking hairdoo is the splitting female image of Jay Z.
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"BB123,

That girl in the center with the peacock-looking hairdoo is the splitting female image of Jay Z."

LOL She sure does look like him!
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I think he needs to be fired because what he said is insulting. However, I also think he, and other's who do this kind of shyt, need to be fined. In regards to this case, I think he should be made to pay into a scholarship fund for Black students who attend Rutgers.

The apology is expected, but, really, money talks. Hit him where it hurts -- his pocket.


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Yeah, that chick certainly does look like Jay-Z! LMAO! How funny is that!
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BB123 & Moonsigns,

I keep looking at the picture of 'her' thinking it's somekinda Mad Magazine spoof on Jigga or something.
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Mzuri-
At the conference this morning, they had the white player speak first (right after the coach). I kinda questioned that. I felt like it sent the message to the gathered journalists that 'she is white so y'all betta listen up.'
:rolleyes:
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 03:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Thanks Robyn :-)
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yes he should have been fired. i personally wish he would just die along with his producer.
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Yukio,

Re-examine your own initial post to me, then get back to me about personal attacks.

Ok, my initial address is immediately after yours, and there is no person attack.

My second posts says, "But where is the hypocrisy if you don't have a problem with their hairdo?

Besides stating a shopping list of ambiguous barbs, you haven't said anything beyond the "penguin-suit wearin ambulance chasers['s]" hairdo."

Then, you said... "A shopping list of ambiguious barbs, huh? well here's one more... you must have a very small penis to be so reactionary about a subject which I am actually agreeing with you on. If that isn't the case, then what the f*ck is wrong with you? "

Is describing your post as a shopping list of ambigious barbs a personal attack? LOL!


The shopping list of barbs:
1. fried head
2. penguin-suit wearin
3. ambulance chasers
4. disingenuous
5. misogynist
6. creeps

While you keep saying its not the hairdo, it really is. Not the hairdo in and of itself, but what it represents to you: a listmus test!

These hair styles for you, it seems, determine ones right to speak out against a clearly misogynist and racist comment.

No where have you justified why call these "hypocrites": disingenuous, misogynist, creeps.

Hence the reason why I call them barbs and ambiguous, as in unclear! But at no point, even after you have continued to attack me, have I, as we like to say, "called you out your name."

If I have attacked your person, please show me.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Yukio - Every time I turn around you're up in here starting up some mess :-)
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Mzuri: all i did was say a few lines, and all of a sudden i got folk talkin bout my jim brown ski!
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But you and jim brown ski mustn't take it personally :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Of course not....
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Nice commentary about seeing these young women as daughters: http://blogher.org/node/18030
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Yvettep,

I think Nordette's commentary is thoughtful, intelligent, and direct -- and she is a brilliant poet!!!! I like her style a lot!!!!
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I have been watching him grovel and beg on tv and it has been satisfying though not as satisfying for me as seeing him tossed into General population on Riker's island.

I think the young ladies are making a big mistake not meeting with him in public. He's going to come out of there with a different version of events than he has--maybe they should at least videotape it.
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What would happen to Imus in Riker's genpop?
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What would happen to Imus in Riker's genpop?

(What do you think?)
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Imus' ratings are going to go through the roof! MSNBC is going to rake in the dough while black people are going to be left bytchin' about what some old bastard said instead of what the government isn't doing to help the victims of hurricane Katrina. It's good to get pissed off over this for a time. But let's not forget what real racism is actually doing, not just saying.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 08:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

right! excellent point that I agree with wholeheartedly!
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What racism is saying is just as important as what it is doing---one is directly connected to the other
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Fortified wrote:
Imus' ratings are going to go through the roof! MSNBC is going to rake in the dough ...

Guess you haven't heard, MSNBC dropped his show today. I suspect, the execs knew they were going to lose money, as the sponsors of his show, were jumping off that sinking ship.
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^^^^Good to hear, let's see what CBS does!

BTW, what racism does actually goes a lot further than what racism says. You can call me a nigg*r all day long from your cash register at WalMart or at the hockey game, but when you bring those views to the courtroom, corporate world and the Whitehouse and use it as a guide for policies, laws and hiring and promoting practices, it is then will I be affected.
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Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 02:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An interesting argument from a business perspective: http://www.diversityinc.com/public/1701.cfm
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What happened to Toubobie? I thought she was gonna show me how I personally attacked her...
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Yvette, thank you SO much; that article is 1000% right. And the only people that don't get it are older people in the media and a lot of the folks in politics, who are mostly older and white. This is why the media HAVE TO become more diversified, because their views right now are irrelevant. I need to know about what Hispanics think, what Asian people are thinking ect, and they need to know about us. ...Because frankly, that’s the world that we’re living in right now. To me I think about 3/4 of the television media personalities should be fired. They are simply out of touch and we're tired of waiting for them to catch up.
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...and the media HAVE TO learn that Blacks and minority people are as diversified in their thinking as America is itself. I'm tired some brotha getting up on TV claiming to speak for ALL of us. It’s the furthest thing from the truth, it's outrageous and it has to stop.

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There's diversity in print because of the internet, thank god.

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