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Chrishayden
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 11:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique, I feel your pain:

HILLARY PREDICTS: OBAMA CANDIDACY WILL DIMINISH
Tue Jan 02 2007 18:56:42 ET

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton views Barack Obama as her biggest obstacle to nomination, the NEW YORK TIMES is planning to report, but she believes the threat of his candidacy will diminish -- as voters learn how inexperienced he is in government and foreign affairs!

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NYT reporter Adam Nagourney has filed a high-impact story, newsroom sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT. Publication time: Unknown.

Clinton has engaged in a series of nearly nonstop political consultations since Election Day, in what her advisers say are preparations for, in all likelihood, announcing her interest in running for president.

[That announcement could come in weeks.]

Dining recently with allies in New Hampshire, Hillary Clinton was "probing and absorbing, and clearly informed," reports Nagourney.

The topic turned to the Democratic sweep in New Hampshire in November.

Hillary wanted to know how the Democrats managed to unseat the state's two Republican members of Congress, and what were the key issues?

Clinton told Democrats that she viewed her two strongest potential Democratic opponents as Obama and John Edwards.

Developing...

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Abm
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 12:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Obama has MORE experience in elected office than Hillary has. And, unlike her, he did NOT have the benefit of being married to a friggin' PRESIDENT to get elected to the U.S. Senate.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 12:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL Abm but Africanamericans are going to stop Obama and I think Hilary is right whites will get over him soon as they remember he is black.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm no Hillary Clinton fan, but she was actually an accomplished political attorney and lobbyist BEFORE she met hubby. Remember, she was a member of the panel to impeach Nixon.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 12:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill or Barak?
Barak or Bill?

Such a dilemma for all Blue Dog Democrats and DLC clones.

Which one do you want to see getting a blowjob in the Whitehouse in 2008?

Hillary and her gang are going to do the Sistah Soljah on him. And what will you do then?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 12:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enchanted,

Perhaps Obama's presidential candidacy will be derail. But I doubt it'll be Blacks who do him in.


U_S,

There are MYRIAD political operatives who have much more extensive, deeper backgrounds than that of Hillary's. That don't mean they are worthy of being elected president.

Honestly. Would Hillary even BE in the US Senate right now were she NOT married to Bill Clinton? And, yes, that's a rhetorical question.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 12:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He's toast!!!

Effect of Obama's Candor Remains to Be Seen
Senator Admitted Trying Cocaine in a Memoir Written 11 Years Ago
By Lois Romano
Wednesday, January 3, 2007


Long before the national media spotlight began to shine on every twist and turn of his life's journey, Barack Obama had this to say about himself: "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. . . . I got high [to] push questions of who I was out of my mind."

The Democratic senator from Illinois and likely presidential candidate offered the confession in a memoir written 11 years ago, not long after he graduated from law school and well before he contemplated life on the national stage. At the time, 20,000 copies were printed and the book seemed destined for the remainders stacks.

Today, Obama, 45, is near the top of polls on potential Democratic presidential contenders, and "Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance" has regularly been on the bestseller lists, with 800,000 copies in print. Taken along with his latest bestseller, "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream," Obama has become a genuine publishing phenomenon.

Obama's revelations were not an issue during his Senate campaign two years ago. But now his open narrative of early, bad choices, including drug use starting in high school and ending in college, as well as his tortured search for racial identity, are sure to receive new scrutiny.

As a potential candidate, Obama has presented himself as a fresh voice offering a politics of hope. Many say he offers something new in American politics: an African American with a less-than-traditional name who has so far demonstrated broad appeal. What remains to be seen is whether the candor he offered in his early memoir will be greeted with a new-style acceptance by voters.

It was not so long ago that such blunt admissions would have led to a candidate's undoing, and there is uneasiness in Democratic circles that "Dreams From My Father" will provide a blueprint for negative attacks.

Two decades ago, Judge Douglas H. Ginsburg of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit was forced to withdraw as a nominee for the Supreme Court after reports surfaced that he had used marijuana while he was a law professor. As a presidential candidate, Bill Clinton thought marijuana use could be enough of a liability in 1992 that he felt compelled to say he had not inhaled. And President Bush has managed to deflect endless gossip about his past by acknowledging that he had an "irresponsible" youth but offering no details.

Through his book, Obama has become the first potential presidential contender to admit trying cocaine.

"I believe what the country is looking for is someone who is open, honest and candid about themselves rather than someone who seems endlessly driven by polls or focus groups," said Robert Gibbs, Obama's spokesman. Gibbs said yesterday that Obama was not available for an interview.

Presidential aspirants tend to write more sanitized books for use as campaign tools. "Faith of My Fathers" by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) depicts his family's history of military service. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has reissued "It Takes a Village," which offers her views about child-rearing in contemporary society. In fact, Obama's latest book, "Audacity of Hope," lays out his policy positions.

But "Dreams From My Father" is not like that. Obama wrote the highly personal book when he was in his early 30s, after being approached by a publisher when he became the first black person elected editor of the Harvard Law Review.

"This is not the kind of book you would ever expect a politician to write," said GOP consultant Alex Vogel. "Anyone who has a career in politics has to be concerned with what's in their past, but there is no question that Americans have an appetite for redemption."

In fact, Bush himself has been a beneficiary of those sympathies. He has suffered little criticism from his conservative base after acknowledging that he drank too much in the past and is now a teetotaler.

Obama's partisan opponents and experts said it is too early to know whether the admissions will be a liability because the public seems to be enthusiastically embracing his openness at this point. What's more, they note that it is better for a politician to disclose his own transgressions, rather than be put on the defensive by revelations.

A senior Republican strategist who will be advising a GOP presidential candidate in 2008 said he did not see anything in the book that would be a "disqualifier," but he cautioned that Obama has not yet gone through an intense vetting process and that a problem could arise if there is more to his story than he has chosen to share. The strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, also suggested that there will be high tolerance for marijuana use among voters because many baby boomers probably tried the drug in the '60s.

"Who's going to cast that first stone?" asked Anita Dunn, a veteran Democratic political consultant, who has advised Obama's political committee.

Rhodes Cook, a independent political analyst, said that Democratic primary voters, who are typically more liberal, would be more understanding of his drug use -- "and if he makes it to a general election, it will be old news."

Obama's supporters said his admissions in the book could work to his advantage.

"I think it will be received as refreshing," said Sen. Richard J. Durbin, Obama's fellow Democrat from Illinois. "If you compare similar books, many of us in the political business tend to have selective memories."

Obama writes extensively about his struggle to come to terms with being a black man whose African father returned to Kenya when he was 2, leaving him to be raised by his white Kansas-born mother and grandparents in Hawaii. He describes an identity crisis arising from his realization that his life was shaped by both a loving white family and a world that saw in him the negative stereotypes frequently ascribed to young black men. He recounts a search of self that took him from high school in Hawaii to Columbia University, and then to the streets of Chicago as a community organizer.

"We were always playing on the white man's court . . . by the white man's rules," he writes. "If the principal, or the coach, or a teacher . . . wanted to spit in your face, he could, because he had the power and you didn't. . . . The only thing you could choose was withdrawal into a smaller and smaller coil of rage.

"And the final irony: should you refuse this defeat and lash out at your captors . . . they would have a name for that too. Paranoid. Militant."

Obama has not expressed any regrets for his candor. In a preface to the new edition, he says that he would tell the same story today "even if certain passages have proven to be inconvenient politically."

In the book, Obama acknowledges that he used cocaine as a high school student but rejected heroin. "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though," he says.

In an interview during his Senate race two years ago, Obama said he admitted using drugs because he thought it was important for "young people who are already in circumstances that are far more difficult than mine to know that you can make mistakes and still recover.

"I think that, at this stage, my life is an open book, literally and figuratively," he said. "Voters can make a judgment as to whether dumb things that I did when I was a teenager are relevant to the work that I've done since that time."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/02/AR2007010201359. html
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 01:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri:

That didn't hurt your good for nothing Governor, Dubya!

A born again draft dodging cokehead drunk. That about covers all the bases of debauchery, don't it?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 01:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yup, and that's why you elected him twice, thank you very much :-)

And oh by the way, in case you didn't notice, Dubya is a white man. And in case you didn't know - white people can get away with things that Black people can't.

This concludes today's high school civics lesson. :-)

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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 01:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nobody elected him. He stole the elections and the American people, unlike those in Venezuela, Mexico or Ukraine (so called third world countries) are too pussified to do anything about it.

Obama is half white, so he can get away with half as much.

Man, you used to be so much harder to swat down. What's the matter.

Is foozie woo got a weebie feebie?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 01:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Admit it, chrishayden. You're jealous of Obama because I don't find him as obnoxious as I find you. One day you will stop trying to win my approval.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 02:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What difference does it make how he got there, possession is nine/tenths of the law. LOL!

Pussified? Speak for yourself CH!

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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 04:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And, on the black white thang, Clarence "Long Dong Silver" Thomas got on the Supreme Court despite smoking dope and being addicted to porn--
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 04:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How do you know he has a long dong?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 09:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri --

Re: Obama / Cocaine

"He's toast!!!"

Agreed.

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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 11:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not saying that I think Hillary is the best candidate because I don't (anymore). But Bill Clinton would NOT have been Governor and then President had it not been for Hillary Clinton. He has ALL of the charisma between the two of them. But Hillary has always been the strategist. She's the Karl Rove of both of their careers. I guess you can say she’s Mr. Clinton’s brain…which says a great deal.

I think both Hillary and Obama are toast, tho, for one reason: John Edwards.

John Edwards talked about poverty and education BEFORE it suddenly became popular to talk about such things again. His last run for the presidency was on that platform almost exclusively. And he did it at a time when his colleagues and much of the public were shunning those issues... back when Hillary was out squandering most of her time reaching out to Evangelicals and Red State America. The irony of it all is that Hillary will lose the primaries because the Democrats won the election. Meanwhile, John Edwards will continue to appeal to us Bleeding-Heart Liberals, riding the mood of a progressive culture looking for change ...and if he's clever he'll capture what's up for grabs in the middle.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 11:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Obama is somebody a lot of women would like take in their mouths, if you know what I mean.
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Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 04:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri:

He told Anita Hill.
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Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 04:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nels:

So a white man can do cocaine and its okay with you, huh?

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