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Roxie
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Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

.......until they've twisted ALL of our history in their image.

Guess who these people picked as the appropriate actress to play the Black Queen Hapshetsut?:

http://www.daughterofra.com/future.html

[*sigh*] -_-'

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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:08 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i wrote about this already, when i was looking for info on halle berry playing nefertiti. I was also in shock when i saw their choices also... so you're not alone....
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:09 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i wrote about this already, when i was looking for info on halle berry playing nefertiti. I was also shocked when i saw their choices also... so you're not alone....
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On a commercial tip, you can just say a white actress playing her will bring in more bux at the box office.

On the other hand, how long before Great Black people from History get started painted white--like Dr. King and Malcolm X.
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 04:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To be honest with you, I'm SHOCKED that Halle Berry is even in the running! We all know Hollywood likes to get BRUNETTE Whites to play ALL "ethnic" roles!
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 07:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

but notice what picture they put of Halle Berry on there... It's like they searched for the picture where she looked palest, for a moment, she could pass for an all white woman... thankfully because of the lighting i guess and makeup she is still recognizable in the picture.
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The very sad thing is that Hatshepsut was Egypt's greatest queen and was a lesbian (she did more than just rule Egypt as a "man", as they said).

Her family was from PUNT and she looked like Oprah Winfrey or a thicker Alfre Woodard. But darker than them.

She had one male lover that she loved a great deal--the Nubian general over her army.

NONE of those women should even be considered.

The role should go to Missy Elliott.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Having women like Halle Berry, Beyounce, Thande Newton, (and others) play black female roles..........

IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT FROM HAVING WHITE WOMEN PLAY BLACK WOMEN IN BLACK ROLES, OR HAVING WHITE PEOPLE PLAY BLACK PEOPLE IN BLACK FACE.... ALL OF IT IS BLATANT JIM CROW..........

I can't understand how AAs can sit back and act like it's not.

None of these women should be considered for this role... INCLUDING HALLE!

...Her image is no different than theirs....

WAKE THE PHUCK UP!

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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:46 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...While we're at it, let's add Iman, Naomi Campbell...

AND EVERY OTHER JIM CROW "BLACK" WOMEN IN HOLLYWOOD TO THE LIST....

You name 'em.. I'll add 'em...
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 11:07 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

o please... u all act like u have original pictures of her... i never seen no polaroid of this queen.... and i am so tired of people acting like because u are light skinned u are not black.

Tonya i think that u should wake the phuck up... black is black... Black isnt stright hair, it isnt kinky hair, it isnt light skin, and it isnt dark skin... it just is...

how old are most of yall... im guessing that a lot of you are way into your 50's with just these notions that you all come up with... And ya'll wonder why there is such a gap between the civil rights era, and the generation of today...
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with Edenson. And since African Americans aren't Egyptians why should they be indignant? Especially since since Egyptians have distanced themselves from black Africans and are probably perfectly satsified with Hallie Berry playing this role. Incidentally, I'm older than any of those you accused of being well up into their 50s.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 08:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, excuse me Cynnique. I didn't mean to generalize or put anyone in a box, but I had to get my point accross. I know you understand.

I think Halle Berry would be nice to see on screen as Hapshepsut. She is BLACK and she is beautiful. What more do you all want. Where was all this hoopla when Denzel played X, when Flex Alexander played Michael Jackson, and Angela Bassett played Tina Turner.

First it's get any blacks in the movies and on tv. Then its let's have real jobs in the movies and on tv instead of maids and butlers. Then we get shows like the cosby show, and we say "They're not real. They're so fake." Referring to the doctor and lawyer of the family... Then we say we need MOOOORE blacks on tv and in movies... and guess what??? We got it. Now you're telling me, we got blacks on tv and in the movies, and people are now saying, well those light skinned actors ain't black, so let's get some dark skinned people on tv...

Damn... I said it once before on this board, and I'll say it again... Sometimes you fight so hard that you don't realize the fight is over. Eventually you'll end up fighting yourself...

You can't always have an actor match up with the character exactly. Halle is beautiful and she can bring in the money needed to start this movie, and rake in the doe at the box office. Just be happy that they had a black person on there, no matter what shade.

BLACK........
IT JUST IS...
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 10:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wasn't slighted, Edmenton. I was just letting you know that all older folks were aren't set in their ways. And I might add that I find your flexibility very refreshing.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"And I might add that I find your flexibility very refreshing."

Thanks Cynnique...

O and for the record it's Edenson, just in case you didn't catch that... But I do appreciate your comment..........
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The one time my age does kick in is when it comes to names! I'm always misspelling them or getting them wrong or forgetting them. LOL
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Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 02:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The ancient egyptians were a mulatto civilisation. Therefore it is fitting that halle berry is chosen for the part.
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Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 09:08 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

More identity theft, eh?
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 06:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, it is proven by major anthropologists and scholars.
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 12:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Uh huh...the same major "anthropologists" and "scholars" who say Jesus Christ was white and the same ones who still physically separate Egypt from the rest of AFRICA and the same ones who "proved" Blacks were inferior to whites based on skull size. I'm not a historian in the "trained" sense of the word, but I'm not that big of a fool. The white/light supremacy you're posing isn't new because its proponents are always trying to steal Black identity to slap a white (or some variation thereof) face on it. We've seen all the blown off noses and altered hieroglyphs/murals where indigenous BLACK populations reigned and resided...and not just in Egypt either. In other words, millions of midnight blue people weren't accomplishing anything for THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of years until the "superior" and "wonderful" genes of nonblacks had to be invented to be introduced into the population....same old shit. Please. Not EVERY Black body on the planet is still on the plantation. Not ONE of those white faces on that link should be playing a BLACK queen.
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 01:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is what "Bi-racial" Arab Egyptians look like:



Anwar Sadat--whose mother was Sudanese

Anwar Sadat

Kola Boof--whose mother was Oromo

Kola


Today's Bi-racial Egyptians usually are very dark and look BLACK, just as they always did. They look more like IMAN than Halle Berry.



FACT:

The people who are now occupying Egypt and calling themselves Egyptians are "Arabs"--they are NOT INDIGENOUS.

Furthermore, these people are devoutly MUSLIM and they are highly ashamed of the "Pagans" who built the pyramids and are buried in the ground.

If you go to Sudan or Egypt, you will find that the Arab Muslims DENY any connection to the ancient Egyptians. They don't make movies about them, they don't celebrate them---they don't like PAGANS.


The original "Black" Egyptian people do still exist in very small numbers, and in a few weeks--I'm going to post photos of them, including my own family, along with an essay about them.


FACT:

The ancient Egyptians--both male and female--kept their heads SHAVED because of "sand" bugs and wore elaborate towering WIGS and head wraps.

This FACT was shown in the film "Prince of Egypt" as several characters would throw off their wigs.

The Congolese and Tanzanians say that they got "WIG-making and WEAVING" from the ancient Egyptians. So do the Greeks and Palestinians.





FACT:

There are more pyramids in SUDAN than in Egypt.

The Nubian and Cushite empires came from "PUNT" in the South index of Somalia. All of the CUSHITIC tribes are still alive and they are all the colors of "charcoal", "deep chocolate" and "dark ebony". They are the PARENTS of ancient Egypt---not the Greeks.

On top of that...the Greeks, the Hebrews, the Palestinians, Abyssinians, Sumarians, Sicilians and all those ancient "light" people were BLACK in ancient times. You only need to visit GREECE right now to see with your own eyes the art works and paintings and murals of the ancient Greeks--not to mention, the Black Virgin Mary that rests on their church altars and whose feet they kiss and call "mother"

It's a dark chocolate Black Doll--but they deny she's black, yet won't take her down.


Queen Hatshepsut was a "phat" lesbian black woman who came from the negroid stick huts in PUNT. She looked like Bessie Smith, only darker--as her "plate" and sculptures fully show.

Anyone who has been to EGYPT and went underground into the Pyramids and looked at the etchings on the wall......will be astonished at just how BLACK the ancient Egyptians were and how the vast majority of the hieroglyph murals are NEVER EVER SHOWN

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FACT:

80% of the "wives" of the Egyptian Pharoahs were from the SUDAN---the Nubian woman (such as King Tut's mother Tiye) being the most numerous.

This proves that the ancient Egyptians came from Cush and Nubia. Why else would they continuously import their Highest Wives from the SUDAN?


And last but not least--USA TODAY presented the "reconstructed" face of Queen Nefertiti, taken from her own mummy.......and the WHOLE WORLD and all the Egyptologists and Scientists in it immediately scorned and discredited the reconstruction---because she was clearly black and looked exactly how we who are Nilotic always said she looked:

Nefertiti

Nefertiti

Nefertiti


And let's not forget King Tut's mother
---Queen Tiye


Queen Tiye

Queen Tiye

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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 02:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So how significant is it that Egyptians had a fit when dark-skinned Lou Gosset, Jr. was chosen to play Anwar Sadat in the made-for-TV movie about this Egyptian leader????
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 04:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola;

I was also told that the Arab officials there have been ACTIVELY destroying the original indigenous images....not just hiding them. Our Ethiopian guide inadvertently mentioned that original images were kept from mainstream/tourist view there as well.

Check out this link:

http://www.raceandhistory.com/manu/book.htm
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 04:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The building of Lake Nuba covered up thousands of Sudanese pyramids and other artifacts that prove that the Egyptians were extracted from the Cush-Nubians.

The Egyptian government did this with financing from the British government.

Arabs and "mixed race" groups in Ethiopia and Eritrea certainly have been destroying evidence for some time now that would link "the darkest blacks" to the creation of Egypt and Axum Empire--and of course, Makeda (Queen of Sheba) was a blue black woman with a bald head and thick features and was considered the most beautiful woman in the world in her day.

People living today can't fathom the idea that "blackness" was once considered a prized beauty.

It's of the OLD world.



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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 04:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Blaklioness! :-)

Good to see you again.

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mulattos
[img]http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/images/human_farmer.jpg[/img]

Mulafro hair with brown skin
[img]http://www.egyptianmyths.net/images/faq-egyptian.jpg[/img]

Blue eyed mulattos-
[img]http://www.mandarava.com/a1grph/Sgph/S_graphics/SUM5159.jpg[/img]

Hatshepsut in historically accurate video game
[img]http://us.games2.yimg.com/download.games.yahoo.com/games/buzz/content/p/4/120004 /civ4_hatshepsut_high.jpg[/img]
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mulattos
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Mulafro hair with brown skin
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Blue eyed mulattos-
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Hatshepsut in historically accurate video game
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 11:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yawn
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 12:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And that videogame is nowhere NEAR depicting Hatshepsut with any accuracy.

As more of us black Nilotics rise up, these false "white" images will be contested.



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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 03:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Is that your baby?

LMAO--you know I'm just playin' :-)
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 03:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I love that little boy! :-) He's so cute.


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Looks like a girl to me?!
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 03:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OOOPS. The daughter I always wanted.




and look...she's doing a MOONSIGNS "yawn" at what I'm telling her! LOL :-)




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KOLA:
"OOOPS. The daughter I always wanted."


MOONSIGNS:
Yeah, Kola....but don't you think she's just a bit too white for your taste, though. LOL!!!! You know you'd be bothered if your baby girl came out that light--you know it!!!!

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That kid will grow up to opress us all.
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---If you go to Sudan or Egypt, you will find that the Arab Muslims DENY any connection to the ancient Egyptians. They don't make movies about them, they don't celebrate them---they don't like PAGANS. ---

THIS is interesting to know, especially since The egyptian Nazi we know and love as Zahi Hawass LOVES to praise them as his own. :P

Is he the ONLY egyptian playing this performance?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he Arab Muslim?

We're not talking about Egyptians. We're talking about the majority of the country...which is devoutly MUSLIM and because of their religion cannot tolerate "paganism".

The ancient Egyptians were the world's FOREMOST pagans, bisexuals, cocaine smokers, orgy loving black people.

If you GO TO Egypt, you will find the Arab Muslim masses do not claim or adore the ancient people.





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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 11:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's obvious he is arab muslim. I'm just facinated by this fact considering the programs on National Geographic and Discovery channel would have you think the opposite. I guess it's official now: Egyptian history is being used for no more than an entertainment venue for the west.Sad.
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If their is a GOOD justification to your cause and an adversary to know WELL, it is ZAHI HAWASS. Check out his version of History here and you'd get the idea:

http://www.zahihawass.com/egyptian_history.htm

This is why I called him "grand dragon".
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Look at Halle Berry, now I don't see anything wrong with her playing Nefertiti. She's not too far from the real pictures of the queen herself that were posted.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/images/halle-berry-catwomen-prem.jpg

and here is a picture of Halle as Nefertiti...
Sorry it's so small, if anyone knows how to make it larger, then be my guest...

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/Nefertiti-6243.unk
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http://www.halle-berry.org/halle-berry-picture.JPG

http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/celebs/10_halle_berry.jpg

http://www.25frames.org/media/news/halle_berry.jpg

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Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 02:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Edenson, Halle has already been cast in the role.

You don't have to campaign for her. :-)

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lol.. i just wanted people to realize that sh is good for the part. that's all...
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Halle will be wonderful in the role, she is talented and gorgeous.
As a "light skinned Black woman" myself (I have a Black mom and a White Dad), I am hardly offended by her as the choice to play the beautiful Egyptian queen.
I wonder if Halle will have her head shaved for the role, as the ancient Egyptian women did?
She would look stunning in the bald look with a shaved smooth head!

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