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Vanilla Vixen
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 09:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If light skinned blacks were seperated from dark skinned blacks as far as classification, what do you all think would be the effects?

I could see it being a benefit to the light skinned person more than being a benefit to the dark skinned counterpart...

So why do some on this board insist of this being done....you know what they say, be careful of what you wish for...

Oh, and for the record, I am a light skinned "black": woman. My father is half white and my mother is half native american (Indian)...which makes me damn fine!! lol!




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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If light skinned blacks were separated from dark skinned blacks,

That's just a dream.

White people are separated from black people.

And white arabs from black arabs. And South Americans from North America, but never light skinned blacks from dark skinned blacks in America.

Classification of the light skinned black, what exactly would they be called?

Please checl your ethnicity in the blank below.

____black or African decent

____ White or white Mexican or European white (Arab, you name it, just be "white" by skin color).

____ MIXERS (Whatever you may be mixed with) what is your race, how light or dark are you? if you turned out white, please check by the white box above. If you turned out black, please check black, thanks.

_____ Sudanese American (Are you from the south, central or Northern Sudan)? If you're from the south, you're the darkest human being alive in skin color. If you're from central Sudan, you're the majority of Sudan and you're brown sugar in color. In America, you'd be catogarized as black, so please check black above if you're this. If you're white Arab muslim from northern Sudan, and you look pinkish white, please check white above.

_____ AMerican Indian (Soon to dissappear completely) but please still check your race and thank you for giving Americans the chance to eat turkey and built houses made of paper.

_____ Australians (whites).. you get the point..

If you don't know what your race is, if your race is not provided above, check below.

_____Other.

Goodnight, you're unique in all God's creation whatever your race may be.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If anyone thinks there isn't a strong mixed movement going on, you can see it for yourself here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/trulymixedunity/?yguid=223254247
This group was only started in May and is growing everyday. One droppists will be left in the dust. Since this topic is about light skinned blacks, it should not even include Mulattos, since they are not light skinned blacks. I like this quote from Mulatto^Diplomat.

"I think its best for black people to be seperated from mulattos (theres no such thing as a light skinned black)

Black people and mulattos will continue to fight each other while we are pretending to be the same. It causes self hatred for black people because the standard of beauty is automatically "how brown and straight haired " you can be, when black people should be looking at their own for beauty such as Neferteri Shepherd and Jamelia Davis"

Black people don't accept us as kin anyways. They claim us in society to represent, but shun us out of jealousy.
There will be a day when the world recognizes that being mixed with black, is certainly not black.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya don't be fooled my friend.

Kola banned everyone. The person posing as Rick (Anonymous) was not actually Rick. It was Kola posing as Rick. What a cheap bitch isn't she? He will come in with a new screen name and explain in a few. Oh and Kola you can't get away with this because by the time your reading this we will have a picture snapshot of this. You need to stop falsyfing things you ugly ass negress.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You don't have to be in the same category as someone to love them. And you certainly shouldn't be forced into a certain category just because you might be different from your friends and family. There will always be differences between people but difference doesn't equal hate. I'm completely different than both my parents but does that mean I have to choose which one I will categorize with and love more, while denying the other? And why is Black my only choice? What is so great or different about Black compared to white that I have to choose Black if I'm going to choose? I'm not in the same category as either of my parents by I love them and they love me. The separation is invisible, but felt as an allowence and acceptance that what I am is new and special.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A snapshot?

You really think I give a shit,
you mutt WHY--N--CH?

And no, I did not pose as Rick. Why would I need to do that if he's banned?

It's just that Rick, after announcing that HE would run my board instead of me--kissed ass a little too late.

And I'm Quite Beautiful, darling. I've been told all my life.

Kola


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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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If light skinned blacks were seperated from dark skinned blacks as far as classification, what do you all think would be the effects?
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More confusion and misunderstanding.

The fact that lightskinned and darkskinned Afroamericans have been mixing and marrying among eachother for basically 400 years is an example to the world how people of differnet colors can actually get along together.

In most societies, there are heirarchies based on skin color as it used to be in America, but we destroyed that and it united us.
We should never allow it to separate us again.


Problem is, whites in America see thier population dwindling and ours growing so they have to come up with a way to increase thier own numbers while decreasing ours.

So whenever they feel like....mixed Blacks are no longer Black but Mulatto and Mixed.
They did this during some parts of slavery.

But when more European immigrant started pouring into the country during the turn of the last century....ALL AfroAmericans were considered Black because they no longer needed the lightskinned AfroAmericans to act as a buffer.

Now that their population is dwindling again, they have to play another trick.

This time they're running out of real whites to import so now they're trying to classify Latinos, East Indians, and Arabs as white.

And don't these people try to "treat" you like they're white sometimes...lol.

It's all a trick and they manipulate race like poker.


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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And Mulatta,

I support you 100% in your movement. I mean seriously, I hope you find legal ground to have your name.

I respect you wanting to separate, it might just be the best thing to do :-).

And I will be here when you take it to the white house. Good luck, I love stuff like this.

You keep preachin and let Mulattos stand up for their right to have their own race :-).

And oh, can you not forget about people that are mixed with chinese and black too? Can you also please fight for them to find their own race too, or will you all be Mulattos?

I'm just wondering..

Again, this is just very very interesting.. and hopefully they'll have something like this on "Nightline" one day, I love watching this news.

But hey, again, I respect your urge to built this movement and making it work. Good Luck!

But Vixen's statement up there trully upsetted me. When Mulattos separate from blacks, I don't think they will be better off than blacks. I think there will finally be a black race group of women representing black women, like the black men are representing the black race in movies. Although, Halle Barry looks nothing Mullatto, she'd rather be called black.

Like they catogarize her as the..

First black woman to _____________

Mariah Carrey to me is neither black or Mullato.

She looks white or Hispanic to me.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brother Rustam said:

In most societies, there are heirarchies based on skin color as it used to be in America, but we destroyed that and it united us.


KOLA:

Bull.

Most Black American men are colorstruck---and most of you seek out the lightest women you can find to marry and marry out of your race, because there is a hideous color hierarchy amongst Black Americans. Only the Dark Skinned MALE has traditionally been spared from color prejudice....as he was allowed to be accepted, but not the darkest of dark black females.

The darkest black woman is the Authentic, the Essential...the MOTHER of the race.

And I don't see any Black American boys trying to marry the very darkest beauty in town.

All one has to do is watch BET or get an issue of XM or KING magazine to see how COLORIST this society is and that it's Black American MALES who drive that colorism.




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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rick,

That is NOT my IP address---but also, you should be smart enough to know that for LEGAL REASONS, this site could be sued for posting anyone's IP address without their permission.

YOU could be sued.

So don't post any digits of anyone's IP address on my board.

And you ARE banned.




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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola you are beautfiful and I'm glad you're showing these assholes who runs this board.

They have totally over stepped their bounds.



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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brother Rustam,

***In most societies, there are heirarchies based on skin color as it used to be in America, but we destroyed that and it united us.
We should never allow it to separate us again.***

Oh.. my.. god! That is such bullshit!!

...Please excuse my language but I simply can't hold back.

Look.. if you're really serious, you should be able to explain:

WHEN DID WE DESTROY IT? And when were we EVER united? I guess you should explain (if you don't mind) what you mean by united. But please.. if nothing else.. please answer the first one.


Tonya



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I think a lot of these so-called "mixies" on here are really fakers, probably Homeland Security nuts trying to start some shit between light-skinned and dark-skinned blacks. One should not believe half the shit one reads on the internet. On the other hand, if these "mixie" assholes are actually real, then these imitation monkey-rednecks can try joining the KKK, or the fucking neo-Nazis, and watch what the fuck happens to them. They will have their wavy-haired, olive-skinned dago-looking asses hacked open with a machete. And if that ever does happen, I will be laughing my black-Indian-Scots-Irish ass off. FUCK those bleached-out worthless pieces of wanna-be Aryan redneck pig shit. They don't need an identity or a nation--they need Zyklon-B and a good gas chamber.




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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Bull.

Most Black American men are colorstruck---and most of you seek out the lightest women you can find to marry and marry out of your race, because there is a hideous color hierarchy amongst Black Americans. Only the Dark Skinned MALE has traditionally been spared from color prejudice....as he was allowed to be accepted, but not the darkest of dark black females.
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Lol.....that was quick.....

What do you mean "bull"?

Black men marry BLACK WOMEN a hell of a lot more than Latino and white men marry thier own women.

Most Latino men in America are chasing after white women.

Many if not most white men are trying to get their hands on an Asian/Oriental woman.

Black people are color-struct to a certain extent, but we aren't even as color and feature concious as most East Africans!

The most an AfroAmerican man do is make fun of somebody with very dark skin or very kinky hair.
We don't set out to eradicate the entire family or socially isolate them.




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The darkest black woman is the Authentic, the Essential...the MOTHER of the race.

And I don't see any Black American boys trying to marry the very darkest beauty in town.
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I suppose you don't see the Black American girls when many of them say they want a lightskinned man to marry to g

Check out Oprah Winfrey slobbering over Stedman.
Check Star Jones slobbering over her nearly-white new husband.

Check out Halle Berry kissing and slobbering over white men on screen and complaining about all of her "bad experiences" with Black men in every other magazine.

Come on now Kola, we don't want to get into a pissing contest over which sex has caught the most hell in America...lol.



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All one has to do is watch BET or get an issue of XM or KING magazine to see how COLORIST this society is and that it's Black American MALES who drive that colorism.
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That's like saying all we have to do is read National Geographic to learn about the contient of Africa.
Those are PARTS or PIECES of our culture, not the entire culture itself.

But I admit they are terrible misrepresentations and make us look sick for white women.
That what they are intended to do.

Do you realize how many AfroAmericans complain about the stereotypical programing on BET?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola's upset because few men can put up with her insane bullshit, is all. Why do you think she keeps on bringing it up?

A lot of black American women are rejected not because of their looks(they look hot, really), but because they come off as too butch, and they wind up attracting either gays or overly aggressive men or overly passive and weak men. They need to cultivate more feminine traits.

BTW, I consider myself black only, thank you very much(that "mixie" stuff is a bunch of punk-pussy shit).
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes and we exercise the same rights if not more Kola.

Oh, I thought I was banned? Guess not.

Anyways enjoy yourselves. We have prevailed simply not only with our points but in the sense of general conceptual purposes. This is simply because of your cowardice to keep us on this board. Again, we have the capability for much more but we will leave you guys alone (Kola you run nothing we can join your board repeatedly if choose to), however I and others think you've had far to much intellectual discussion; to a point that we know you can't keep up with us. It's not our board but boy did you guys hate the hornets nest we stirred lol! Later blackies.

Rick.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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I think a lot of these so-called "mixies" on here are really fakers, probably Homeland Security nuts trying to start some shit between light-skinned and dark-skinned blacks. One should not believe half the shit one reads on the internet. On the other hand, if these "mixie" assholes are actually real, then these imitation monkey-rednecks can try joining the KKK, or the fucking neo-Nazis, and watch what the fuck happens to them
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That seems about right to me.

I've been a relatively dark-skinned Black man in America for over 20 years and ain't experienced HALF the shit I'm hearing some people say up in here about all this "separation" between the light and dark.

Sound like agents or some shit.

Things aren't perfect, but I don't know where the hell these people live.

Somebody on another thread even said darkskinned Black folks were catching more hell than the lighskinned Black folks in Katrina.

I'm like...WTF..lol!

Like Willie Lynch said, separate the lightskinned slave from the darkskinned slave.
Create a division.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Plewis,

I agree with you totally. Mixed people came out of black people too.. and it's sad to realize that they hate this part of their blood and embrace the whites who throw them back to us.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL, Rustang...


This is some funny shit for real though, I agree....

Black people that is black people (light or dark) get along with each other period and they look at one another as one.

This is what I have always know --- the truth!

They speak the same language (Beautiful Ebonics.

I love AAs, they're so wonderful, and they make me feel so good when they welcome me and call me their "sister" from Africa. But at the same time, I can never be like them or be their race, unless I have children, then they would have no choice but to adopt this race. And I don't mind..

I love black Americans.. they make this country function. Without them, America would be boring!


LMAO---
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Rick, you fucking asshole Homeland Security snot, get the fuck off this board. I bet you aren't even a pinkie or high yaller, just some Jew asshole neocon acting like one. Later, hymie.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brotha Rustam,

***I've been a relatively dark-skinned Black man in America for over 20 years and ain't experienced HALF the shit I'm hearing some people say up in here...***

That's because you're a dark MAN, not a dark FEMALE.... But I'm more concerned with why you haven't answered my question(s).... (????)

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LOL, Rustang...


This is some funny shit for real though, I agree....

Black people that is black people (light or dark) get along with each other period and they look at one another as one.

This is what I have always know --- the truth!

They speak the same language (Beautiful Ebonics.

I love AAs, they're so wonderful, and they make me feel so good when they welcome me and call me their "sister" from Africa. But at the same time, I can never be like them or be their race, unless I have children, then they would have no choice but to adopt this race. And I don't mind..

I love black Americans.. they make this country function. Without them, America would be boring!
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Was that directed at Rustang or "Rustam"?

I know the names sound similar.
I probably wouldn't have chosen that name if I knew a brutha had a name so similar already on here.

I say so much controversial shit people don't like to here at times, I wouldn't want him to suffere wrath aimed at me...lol.


I love African and West Indian people.

Often times I can relate to them better than AfroAmericans because I'm starting to lose confidence in my own people...((sad)).

AfroAmericans could have taken over this nation 20 years ago but we dropped the ball.

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That's because you're a dark MAN, not a dark FEMALE.... But I'm more concerned with why you haven't answered my question(s).... (????)
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Lol...what question(s)?

I didn't even know you posted up in this thread.

Everytime I click in this mug I see about 50 more posts added...lol...I can barely keep up.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 11:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brother Rustam,

I have lived in this country going on 30 years.

I have also traveled around the planet quite a bit.

Black American men are CHRONICALLY "colorstruck" and try to marry the lightest women they can find.

They believe that lightskinned women are more beautiful and they have no CORE identity that values blackness in itself---so they don't value the Authentic Black woman, the one who makes us black.

Would you rather your son look like Michael Jordan....or like Terence Howard....or like Vin Diesel?

WHICH Black son do you want...or do you even want a Black son?

Since you're young, I thought I'd put that on your "Afrocentric" Big Black Man mind right now.


PLewis, you're the one who is full of shit.

You obviously have read very little about MY life.

Most of the Black men in my life...agree with what I'm saying and they encourage me to keep saying it.

My father Marvin Johnson constantly complains about the "prejudice" that black men have towards black females. And the darker she is, the more prejudice they are.

THE WHOLE WORLD CAN SEE IT.

Don't blame the media, because when BLACK MEN create media images---they are the ones doing it.

I noticed that Asante's son, the poet, married a light girl (Freelon's daughter)..for all his father's African principles and talk.

And MOST of the "dark skinned" black women that I have talked to all my life---named dark black men as the ones they were most attracted to, but clearly knew they had no chance with one.

We wouldn't want those BLACK nappy babies now would we?












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Brother_Rustam says: The most an AfroAmerican man do is make fun of somebody with very dark skin or very kinky hair.
Beauty says: Is that not a problem?
It is easy to cast a blind eye when you are not directly affected. Don't you think that black males need to learn to respect dark skinned women?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 11:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brother Rustam,

MAYBE if Black Men like you would acknowledge that young black males have a definite prejudice against their own reflection.....then we could pick that ball up again.

It's amazing how you all keep talking about "blackness" and being "black men" and OPEN YOUR EYES..look around you....you're the very thing you claim to hate.


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And if you really want to see how colorstruck a lot of black men are just look at their videos, or ask what shade of women they prefer.
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Kola

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I have lived in this country going on 30 years.

I have also traveled around the planet quite a bit.

Black American men are CHRONICALLY "colorstruck" and try to marry the lightest women they can find.
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There's a reason for that.

And many AfroAmerican WOMEN also seem to be attracted to the lightest skinned men with "good" hair.
There are many AfroAmerican girls who will say openly that they prefer to have thier baby's daddy be a light skinned curly head man so the baby can come out "pretty".

I'm telling you what's up.




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They believe that lightskinned women are more beautiful and they have no CORE identity that values blackness in itself---so they don't value the Authentic Black woman, the one who makes us black.

Would you rather your son look like Michael Jordan....or like Terence Howard....or like Vin Diesel?

WHICH Black son do you want...or do you even want a Black son?
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I'm not gay, but Micheal Jordan takes me to be a very handsome and well formed man.
Hell, I wish I looked like Micheal Jordan as well as my son!!!!!!



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Since you're young, I thought I'd put that on your "Afrocentric" Big Black Man mind right now.
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I don't consider myself Afrocentric.

I believe in taking the best of ALL cultures whether they are Wolof or Hans.

Don't try to pull no "age rank" on me woman!
I'm still a grown ass man and got the hairy chest and cocoNUTS to prove it...lol.



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MAYBE if Black Men like you would acknowledge that young black males have a definite prejudice against their own reflection.....then we could pick that ball up again.
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I'm not sure what you mean....

But I have a PROBLEM (not a prejudice) against the behavior many AfroAmerican men exhibit...but it has little to do with women or color.
I have a problem with so many accepting the stereotypes and images promoted by the media to demonize them.
Too many play right into these stereotypes.






Beauty

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It is easy to cast a blind eye when you are not directly affected. Don't you think that black males need to learn to respect dark skinned women?
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Yes.
Actually that post was all tore up,
I meant to say the most an AfroAmerican MAY do...not an AfroAmerican MAN do....
The word "man" was a typo.
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Brotha rust,

how hard is it to check the thread for my question(s)? Just curious.
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This is some straight up WILLIE LYNCH bullshit....for real!

Not only are we fighting the lightskinned AfroAmerican against the darkskinned AfroAmerican.

Now it's playing out as a Black MALE against the Black FEMALE drama.

This is crazy as hell.

Black men AND women must work together to progress the race.

I can't trust you to have my back and you're helping the enemy to destroy me by meditating on his propaganda.

I'm telling yall now, if you think Black men are the enemy and the white man is not....then get with white men or get with eachother.

But let those who want to UNITE do so.
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Brother Rustam, have you watched my online video?

I think you would understand me more.

http://doorofkush.50megs.com/about.html



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ANSWER MY QUESTION(S), BRO!
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I Love Black Men. I am just stating fact. I don't view them as the enemy. I just don't like it when black men try to down black women because of her color. I definitely don't view black men as my enemy, I just wish more black men accepted a black women that has dark skin.
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Boy, please!!! :-)

This is NOT Black women against Black Men.

I've had nothing BUT wonderful black men in my life--all my life. I love black men.

In my autobiography there's a chapter called "GOD IS A BLACK MAN"...where I really get to talk about how much I love black men.

But don't bring that bullshit that black men aren't COLORSTRUCK and prejudice against their own women.

Because THEY ARE.

And it can't change until the MEN acknowledge it and stop being in denial aobut it.

Your ass is being BRED off the planet, but the only people who care are black women----NOT YOU.

And I don't see the Black Man as any better than the White Man. You're BOTH the devil in a dark skinned black woman's life.

The only reason my loyalty is with you is because I give birth to you. I'm you're motherseed.

But a black woman is the most unloved, unprotected creature on this earth. And that's what's REAL.







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Tonya, he can't answer it, because he spoke to soon.

He's young and idealistic.

Probably great in bed.

What do you say we double team him?






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LOL,

I'm sorry rustam..


I've been used to the name Rustang on here, that I forget other names will be similar, lol...

SOrry, I've got too much stress with school here, but I believe I will be alright, lol..
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Kola

'da hell you mean "probably"...lol.

You been in America long enough to know there are SOME things AfroAmerican men are good at!


Tonya

(sigh))

Let me see if I can run back up and find these questions to the meaning of life you are so hot for me to answer.


I notice I'm the only man still in this conversation, that shows my level of wisdom.

Maybe the other bruthaz KNOW better than to continue trying to reason..lol.
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If Kola loves black men so much, then why keep on complaining about it?

She talks as if black men run the American media. THEY DON'T.

Tupac did not want to be a gangster-type rapper until WHITE execs in the entertainment world made sure of that.

And when these white execs speak, people listen. When they put out films making blacks look like shit, they are going to get viewed/distributed far more thoroughly than any indie black film that has a more positive view of blacks.

As for you, it's quite clear you really dislike black men because none of them has the time nor the inclination to put up with your crap. Don't blame us for everything.
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Reason with what.



TELL ME this Brother Rustam (first of all, do you mind if I make up a nickname for you? Your name is too long).

But anyway....how many Black Male friends do you have under the age of 40?

Now what are their preferences in women?

And since you all came from West Africa, how in the hell is it possible that you aren't attracted to black women that look black?

You should BE A MAN and stop being in denial, because this shit is sooooo obvious to everyone but black men.

And on THIS BOARD----we hate Colorstruck Black men.

We rip them a new asshole daily. So you might as well know right now.


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Tell it like it is, Kola!
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Alright...here we go.....


Tonya

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WHEN DID WE DESTROY IT?
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Back during the 60s with the "Black is Beautiful" movment.

Prior to that time, calling an AfroAmerican "black" was considered an insult.
We were negroes and colored.

But after than, we all wanted to be called "black" and were proud of our Blackness.
Lightskinned people like Angela Davis and Huey Newton were adamant about defending their Blackness and acceping there own.



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And when were we EVER united?
______________

Uh...what did I just tell you?

Back in the 60s, 70s, and early 80s.

Before the Reagan Revolution took hold.



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I guess you should explain (if you don't mind) what you mean by united. ______________________

We were united as far as moving toward a common goal of equal Civil and Human rights.

Ofcourse no group of people on this Earth are TOTALLY united, but there was an extreme degree of unity that lasted from the 60s all the way to the Early 80s.
I still remember a little bit of it when I was a child.

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If Kola loves black men so much, then why keep on complaining about it?

Because if somebody isn't smart enough to complain about it NOW.....there won't be any black men in the future.

They won't get born, because Black Americans stick their head in the sand on this issue.

How can black men get born if you're teaching our sons to marry lighter and lighter and lighter?

How can you claim to be against racism, but you're racist against your own women????

And YES---black men DO INDEED create a lot of the media images of black people.

If Black men wanted to see sexy chocolate black women all day in their music videos....THEY WOULD.

So don't front on me.

You motherfuckers are colorstruck! and it's about to be the #1 News story in the nation.

I don't want MY SONS to be niggers.










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Why the hell are you so worried about what each and every individual black man likes? Being a black man myself, I much prefer black women. There. But I prefer black women who aren't psychotic and color-struck(in either direction).

In case you haven't noticed, it simply isn't enough to just be black--it's the inner qualities that count too. That luscious chocolaty black skin and your voluptuous curves won't count for shit if you're just an asshole, and a self-pitying one at that.
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The people on this thread who pretend to be mixed are not mixed, they are nothing but white punks with so much fear. They see their little white world crumbling, so they are doing any and everything to create division between people of color. They know their white women love chocolate and there's nothing they can do about it.

They are simply trying to play with our minds when they say there is a mixed movement. By saying there is a mixed movement, they hope it would put fear into blacks, so black men would stop having children with white women. They know that the white population is falling worldwide as we speak and an increasing number of white women particularly in America, are having mixed children, which is a threat to white existance.

With all of the diseases and civil wars in Africa, that continent's population is still rising. But Europe's population is on a decline and so is America's white population. The point of all of this is, the so called mixed people on this board who i actually think are white don't give a damn about blacks or mixed people. they know their whites asses are about to become extinct.
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That's funny. Most black men I see around me take women who are generally the same complexion as they. You base your opinions concerning black men on these stupid rap videos, most of which are made by white boys or Jews. And FYI there are plenty of black entertainment acts out there which are not thug/coon oriented, but sadly, nobody wants to look at THEM, do they?
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Kola, I must admit.. he stopped me dead in my tracks with this line:

"I'm still a grown ass man and got the hairy chest and cocoNUTS to prove it.."

(lol)

I thought twice about pressin.... I started to act cute, dainty, & submissive.. but I said: HELL NO! I'ma stick to my guns and make the brotha answer my gotdayam question(s)!

I thought long about it though (lol).

Tonya
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P.LEWIS

My BLACK HUSBAND comes to me all the time.

"Why are the brothas always talking about white women?"

"Why don't they ever put up pictures of black women?"

"Why don't they try to hit on the black girls?"



50 to 60% of the BLack Men in this country are COLORSTRUCK.

How would you know what a LUSCUIOUS chocolately woman has on her mind since MOST OF YOU would never even get to know one?

What do I have to self-pity? Please explain.


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Stop being in DENIAL.

The moment you enter a room---your eyes gravitate to the lightest women in the room.










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Kola Boof gets plenty of DICK.

More than I can handle in fact.

My problem is this

----I don't want my sons to be niggers.

I want them to be Black men.

I want black grandbabies.

I don't want the White Man's daughter and her White ass mixed children getting my African masks and stones.

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"My BLACK HUSBAND comes to me all the time"

On previous posts you claimed you were unattached, right?

"Why are the brothas always talking about white women?"

Yeah, why--assuming this is actually true? There is a why and a wherefore for everything. A lot of black women prefer thugs and men who are above six feet. A lot of black men are shorter than 5-10, and NOT thugs/tough guys, so black women ignore them. Most of these black men, unfortunately, chase after certain black women who continue to ignore them....But others simply give up and go with non-black women.

You don't know what you're talking about. If black American men loved white women so much, they'd be all over Prague and Budapest like white on rice. But you don't see them there. Instead you find these black men in the Dominican Republic and Brazil and Colombia, and increasingly the Cameroon, where all the dark chicks are at. What the hell makes you think that these BOOTY-CONSCIOUS brothas want a flat-assed white woman? Jesus.

BTW, you don't know me, either. The moment I enter a room, my eyes gravitate towards the woman with the roundest ass! Guess who she is?
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OK

I'm going to stop discussing this with you, because as usual---the men are dishonest.

And think none of us have eyes or ears.

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Sad, I always have to go away from this issue so angry. Because the men are such wimp ass liars.


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Kola


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TELL ME this Brother Rustam (first of all, do you mind if I make up a nickname for you? Your name is too long).
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Well...
You know what the Koran says about nick-names, so make sure whatever you call me is good or I won't answer to it.




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But anyway....how many Black Male friends do you have under the age of 40?

Now what are their preferences in women?
_____________________

Most of them prefer thick women with large round butts, can cook, and are easy to get in bed.

As far as features go, me and my friends have had all types through out our lives from nearly white to coal Black.
Infact my last girlfriend was West Indian and extremely dark skinned.




_________________________
And since you all came from West Africa, how in the hell is it possible that you aren't attracted to black women that look black?
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Because we were born and raised in America around MANY different races, just like white, Latino, and Asian men were.

MOST men who aren't gay find women of ALL races attractive.

We have some preferences over others, but hormones don't discriminate.


Why don't you ask the Arabs in Sudan why they think Blacks are inferior why do so many sleep with Black women?

White men thought they were superior to us but couldn't keep thier hands off our women during slavery and even today they can't.

They raped African, Hawwaiian and Native American women.

I don't hear white women all on television crying and shitting airing all thier dirty laundry over what white men do.

Hell, look at all the little children they molest.

Yall all over us about "light skinned" women and they're dry fucking the entire globe inside and out.





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You should BE A MAN and stop being in denial, because this shit is sooooo obvious to everyone but black men.
_______________

Lol...what..you trying to challenge my manhood because I'm not telling you what you want to hear?

I'm telling you the TRUTH about me.

I don't know what you WANT to hear but if you ask me something I'm gonna tell you the best that I know...can't help that other shit you may have heard on BET or on a subway somewhere.


You strike me as quite racist against AfroAmericans.

Do you honestly think you can take the women and leave the men....lol...?

We come in a package so if you accept one, you have to accept the other.
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Sad, I always have to go away from this issue so angry. Because the men are such wimp ass liars.
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((shakes head))

You get a kick out of trying to test the manhood of men don't you.

If we passed all your tests...what would be our reward..lol..?

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***BTW, you don't know me, either. The moment I enter a room, my eyes gravitate towards the woman with the roundest ass! Guess who she is?***

That's beautiful.... Sexism at it's finest!

Seriously.. I'm more concerned about younger women. Black men are becoming more & more color-struck. Men my age (30 & up) are not nearly as color-struck as these young boys nowadays. I wonder if that's something that changes with age. I don't know. I know that I'm not, at all, optimistic about the young black men coming up now.

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I'm just repeating MY BLACK MAN.


I guess because he's not American. Oh well.





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I know what you mean, Tonya.

I live in California, and I don't want my sons to be niggers.

Luckily their father has total input.

He's more concerned than I am. And I thank GOD that I picked him.

He is such a wonderful black King. A REAL one.

But living in California, you lose all respect for black men.

They're nothing but niggerstock out here.

Kobe Bryant type trash with their white children.



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Well, if you have your black king, fine. Fuck the niggerstock. Tune them out. There are plenty of dumb niggers where I live, so many of them that if I paid too much attention to them, I'd go mad.

Also: I see not too many people on this goddamn board has any sense of humor at all. Just prim, prissy little bourgeois shits.
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***I see not too many people on this goddamn board has any sense of humor at all. Just prim, prissy little bourgeois shits.***

What are you talking about brotha?
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P Lewis,

I'm going to think about you tonight while I'm sucking that big black cock

Kola

I'm going to think about you and PRAY that you forgive me not being more obedient and pliant master.

I should listen better and stop being so difficult.

I really hope that you BlkAmericanKing and Brother Scrotum will forgive me.

I'm so sorry.




That's what happens when you men let me go too long without my spanking.

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BIG HEAD thanks you guys

kola
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Kola I know what you mean,

We as blacks (not mixed people) need to stick to our own.

Those mixed people are right. Maybe we black folk have been blind all along by trying to include multiracials in our people.

Let them multiracials be. The Tyra Banks, the Halle Berry's, the Gary Dourdans. They ain't black their mixed. Let them have their Mixed Pride if they want that's not our business. Everyone has their own prides. There is the Asian Pride, White pride, and of course the Black pride. We as blacks need to just accept what those previous mixed people that were on here said before they were kicked to speak their piece.

I don't think they are trash just like I don't think the chinaman or the jew is trash. No need for that unecessary things.

I'm an elderly black man (in other words dark skinned because blacks are only dark skinned or dark dark brown) and I have seen so much disgrace since the days of Jim Crow amongst us. What's with these kids on the streets these days smoking crack and talking to the ebony's with such a rude tone.

Don't hate my fellow blacks no good can come of it. But keep black and stay black. Kola is a role model for you black women out there and Mulatto Diplomat speaks the truth when he says that there is no such thing as a light skinned black, cause there ain't. Either your black to dark brown in order to be black. If your light then your of the mixed race like them other people said. Please men, listen Kola she knows what she is talking about. Be a man, grab the black woman (in other words dark skinned/dark brown) and care for your children like the babydaddy's you are meant to be.

Peace
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um...ummmmmmmmm...umm

kola

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Uh....yeah.
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No, master, I really mean it.

That's why I wrote "GOD IS A BLACK MAN" in my autobiography.

I'm tired of these women not understanding how we should be treating black men.

I get the feeling that black men have not been exposed to their African ROOT sexual healing.

There's a misunderstanding.

You think I'm a hard bitch. I'm not.

God created me to spoil black men. We all have that in us.

I just want to see my black King exist as himself and be born uninterrupted.

I'm sad that we fought.




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Kola my God!
What Black man couldnt resist you?
****!
Now that is one hell of a Black woman.

Peace
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I live in California also and i see black men chasing after light skinned women more than they chase after white women. BUT, i also know dark skinned black women who will tell you straight up that they only date light skinned guys. So, black women can be just as color struck as black men, i see it every day. Even wayyy back in high shcool, i would hear dark skinned black women talk about only dating light skinned guys. As a black man it honestly made me feel hurt. There are plenty of white, Latin women, etc. who will date a dark skinned brotha, but a lot of black women won't, so go figure.

As for black men chasing after white women, i honestly think it's white women who are chasing after black men. Black women are too damn busy chasing after thugs or guys who are just plain useless. If a good black man approaches a black woman, she acts like he's a wimp. So, therefore he is forced to seek women of other races.
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Syykkkkkeee!

LMAO

Kola


I'm still not back with Thomas. He just comes here to raise his sons.

I'm sucking no dick tonight. DRATS!

But....I will finger bang when I have wine by myself very late and pretend I'm with Evander Holyfield.

:}

I LOVE BLACK KMEN.



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BlkAmericanKing:
That's not true for every black woman. I personally love a good black man. If I have a black man who treats me like a queen and respects me, there is nothing in this world I wouldn't do for him. I'd treat him like a king.
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BLCK son,
Ain't no reason for a black man to be chasing a mixed woman (the incorrect term light skinned). You see that babygirl right there Kola that's what you need to focus on. Put your faith in the black women forget them Mixed folk. If there is one thing I'll agree with mulatto, it's that light skinned blacks don't exist. Them light skins ain't never our own they are the mixed raced. AGAIN just take a look at that babymama Kola that's all the nice dark loving you need. My wife is just as darkish brown like Kola and ain't nuthin like it son.

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Sparkle,

I know it's not true for every black woman and i am glad you are a good black woman. We need more black women like you.
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Ohhhh

I wanna take my titties out too.

Let s all get wet up!

Guys unzip your fly! :-)


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Kola girl you a freak and I love it!

Bambi
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Kola lets lick on each othe first.

Then the guys can stand in a circle and wet us up.


Here's Evander for you.

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Bambi

Kola it's a fuck party up in here!

Ooh yeah soul sister! OOOOOOOOO


BT


Don't you just want to lick his ass, Kola?

I do.

dd

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My dick is wiped out but it ain't for you Bami if that's your picture. Black women only.
Kola your in my dreams.

Peace
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Thank you SIMON. :-)

I adore you.



Girrrrrrl. You guys are tripping!

LMAO!!! :-)



That's probably Tonya being clever.

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Simon, that is sooooo sexy.

I love that American word. "Dick".

I love it!




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Yes baby!

Peace
Simon LawlThe best

ya
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LMAO!!!!!!!


Ohmygod!!!

is this Cyber sex?

This is so ooooooo funny.

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Kola I'm going to lick you down and we are going to

RIDE

all these guys!

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OK you guys.

We have to STOP.

Troy Johnson may get mad about this. He owns this site.

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No more pictures.


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You see what happens when we leave you all alone? Nasty. And yes Aricanqueen we include all people who are less than 65% monoracial no matter what thier mix is. We do have a name but we have not unvieled it yet. When our website comes out in January I will let you guys know so you can continue to educate yourselves on our new and wonderful race.
Take Care Now
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I don't know where this thread is going what with all the sex pictures and stuff but I can say it is nice to see some black people finally embracing the truth.
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Why hello there Galactic.
Your right we did post some non-related things on this board and it's great that you made us aware of that. I apologize.
As a full blood black man I do agree with what you mixed folk have said. We blacks have been blinded and if it wasn't for all of yalls extent of telling us about this some of the new youngans on here wouldn't have known. Like mulatto said there ain't no such thing as a light skinned black. There is only dark brown and black. As a full blooded black man I definitely proclaim you mixed people (65% mono as you say) as your own race. Don't listen to AfricanQueen she is bitter and it's obvious even amongst us blacks. Goodluck to you.

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Figured I'd sign in.
I like this idea of the mixed race.
So let's see here we gonna have this in the census.
Multiracial - White - Black - Asian - Other

What about Hispanic I was gunna put em on but I know they got a lot of races in. Think that be fine. To my fellow black men stay to our black dark and dark brown queens. Kola is what you need boy!

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Who would we use to replace the Tyra Banks's, Vin Deisel's, Rashida Jones's, Mariah Carey's, Kimora Lee's and them Rick Foxes? I'm thinking we get some of our black brothers and sisters of the street that need that appeal. Or maybe we should go to Africa?
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My respect to you Simon. And Mulatto Diplomat, I'd love to see you at Truly Mixed Unity.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/trulymixedunity/?yguid=223254247
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Simonlawl, you're just a dumb honky/hymie/dago/mick troll pretending to be "mixed." I know all these parlour tricks, faggot. Your Homeland Security crap doesn't work on dudes like me.
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Simon is not mixed. He is a black man. You did not read his post. He just wants the mixed to get their own category and blacks to unite with blacks.



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And yes Aricanqueen we include all people who are less than 65% monoracial no matter what thier mix is.

So you don't include quadroons?
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My bad. Actually, Simon Lawl is an ofay pretending to be a full-blooded black. Either which way, he's got Homeland Security written all over his ass.
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Galatic Mulatta:
In the proccess of joining sweetie.
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MD so glad to hear it. Quadroons are in another category but still our friends/cousins. My own kids are quadroons. TMU does have some quadroon members. There are also some monoracial members who support us whole heartedly.
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Plewis young man. Listen.
Listen son.
Listen.

Out of sheer respect for these mixed folks and for ourselves as black (dark skinned to dark brown) folk..PLEASE STOP THE OFFENDING. Plewis your just giving us blacks a bad name. Plewis I'm as dark as the night so quit your fronting man. I'm about as old to be your grandpappy most likely.

Galactic I can see how you and quadroons are like distant cousins. It's like us blacks and dark brown folks with that little bit of white mixture in them (5% -10%?). Hell if they too want their own seperate category let them go for it. All I know is I know a black person when I see one, an asian man when I see one, a mixed person (otherwise known as light skinned a term I think needs to be thrown out completely since it doesn't exist), I know an indian tribal man when I see one, I know a white man when I see one. Each one of them deserve their own category.

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I'm feeling you Simon...

There's no such thing as a light-skinned black:

Tisha Campbell is Mulatto

Allen Iverson is Mulatto (don't tell it to his crazy gun-tote'n face, though)

Rip Hamilton is Mullatto

Tayshuan Prince is high yellow Mulatto

Vince Carter is Mulatto

Kenyon Martin is Mulatto

Ludicrous is Mulatto

And so on, and so on...

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Tonya, Simon,

I agree with you both... I think these people deserve their own category, but it always seems impossible since they have to rely on the black community because that is all they have and represent a 90-95% of the time.

And black only defines those whom are brown or black.. I don't think there should be such thing as a light skinned black man or woman either. But this movement up in here is not good enough to deserve any kind of attention. Anyone who comes in here disrespecting other races for their right to have their own race will struggle in the finding and fighting for his own race.. .

Martin Luther King was a good example of finding ground for the black community.

So if anyone is interested in finding ground for the lights (mullattos) to have their own race, they need to be a bit more professional and I don't think hating on blacks and,

""I could see it being a benefit to the light skinned person more than being a benefit to the dark skinned counterpart...""

WILL NOT DO SHIT FOR NOBODY.

I KNOW IF ANYONE TOLD LUDACRIS THIS HE'LL PROBABLY PISS IN HIS PANTS OR BREAK A LEG CUZ HE STANDS UP FOR ALL BLACK PEOPLE INCLUDING AFRICANS, LOL... I LOVE THAT MAN!

PEACE :-).
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So, according to your definitions, that would make ME mulatto. Which, quite frankly, is bullshit.

C'mon, man. "Mulatto," "black," etc., these are definitions that were imposed upon us--by racist whites--and you are blandly accepting them. By your definitions, people like Clarence Thomas and Armstrong Williams are more authentically black than people like W.E.B. du Bois or Lena Horne or Malcolm X. Bullshit. You can't tell blackness by what you see on the outside, and you know that. It's what's on the inside that counts.
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Simon, I am so glad you came to this board and I hope you will stay.

I think PLewis may be offended, because he's mixed or lightskinned and isn't used to all this "black identification and self-respect" among the "common blacks". A lot of lighter people have really not been paying attention.

Tonya---as usual, you and I are like sisters of one thought.

I think the arrival of more blackcentric Africans and West Indians is also going to help Dark SKinned AAs to see and stengthen their own identity.

Then we have the self-hating Africans and West Indians (aka Pogo Niggers) and they can be very destructive.


And AFRICAN QUEEN---

people like Ludacris will just have to AFFIRM their "blackness"....by breeding more black into their lines.

Many yellow negro women have been doing that all along. They do it to re-secure the identity they feel is being stolen from them by being mixed. The only problem has been that these yellow people will tell their "Daughters" to marry dark black men----but tell their sons to keep choosing a lighter female.

The authentic black woman (such as you AQ) is the one we need to rise up to her rightful place in order for our men to flourish.

The white man RULES through the white woman. And the black man cannot truly rule without his own twin image at his side.





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Actually, P Lewis

In Africa---before slavery and colonialism---they would not accept a mixed child as just "black".

That child would still be African and still belong to the tribe. But they were given their own special name to acknowledge the admixture.

And the name used today is "Half-Caste" or "Berber" or "Beja".

It wasn't just the white man who was protecting his caste.

What YOU should do P Lewis is marry a very gorgeous exquisite dark chocolate Afro beauty. :-)

That will even things out for you---and give you more authentic kids.




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No, I am not mixed, both my parents are African-Americans, thank you very much.

And for your information, my father was a groundbreaking scholar in the study of the blues and Afro-American poetry(at a time when such a thing was unheard of). His name was Dr. Stephen E. Henderson. Growing up in his household, there was no way you could not have any pride or respect in Afro-American culture.

By Kola's own definitions, Condi Rice, Armstrong Williams, Ken Hamblin, Alan Keyes, Stanley Crouch, and those other paragons of black pride and black consciousness are far authentic than I or my father would ever be simply because their skins are darker. But it seems some Afro-Americans have NOT learned their lessons from the sixties, unfortunately.....
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Ludacris and Allen Iverson "mulatto?" Are you fucking serious? Both of them seem (to my eyes, anyway) to be well within African American phenotypic means.

Further, African American phenotypes exist along a very smooth continuum, from blue black to light brown (or "yellow," depending on where you draw the upper limit for admixture). There is no phenotypic gradient between "real blacks" and "mixed" blacks. Wherever anyone might choose to draw the line would be completely arbitrary and subjective.
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You know, Plewis makes a good point here too...


"The inside is what counts..." !!

It's just impossible to separate a people who have learned to live together as one race, light or dark.. It's impossible especially presently!

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BY BLOOD....

yes.....Clarence Thomas is more authentic than my idol and hero Malcolm X.

Tell us, P LEWIS....how black was your mother?

And what people like you fail to realize is that we're sick and tired of having PROUD HOUSE NIGGERS, ie. Harry Belafonte and others preach blackness and marry and procreate lite, bright and usually WHITE

...but then the mixed and yellow people benefit from White Supremacy and from these ONE DROP rules and categories.

I'm a Black African woman and I'm damned sick and tired of being MIS-Represented by HALLE BERRY, LENA HORNE and other biracial/mixed women..

I'm sick of being disallowed by MEN LIKE YOU from representing my own image and having my blackness made invisible.




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THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A LIGH-SKINNED BLACK....

Africanqueen..

I feel you....

They were kinda mean. You ain't gone get me to argue wid 'em though!!!

HAAAYELLL NO!

We just gone turn the other cheek!

Plewis..

ya on ya own!

...We still luv you, though, Buddy!

Tonya
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Kola, I don't need anybody telling me whom I want to marry. If I do find a gorgeous dark chocolate African or African-diaspora woman, fine. But whether or not she'll overlook me for a white man(or lighter-complexioned black, which usually happens)is another matter, indeed.

Also: this isn't 1500. No point in dragging our asses back to the pre-colonial African past to look for clues on how we should see ourselves now, because I, personally, am African-American; I was born here, not in Songhai or Kanem-Bornu, and was born in 1967. Period. If Africans can't accept me as a full black man, that's tough.

And from what I know personally of the hundreds of Africans I've known intimately, they aren't always as black inside as they are outside. You can't always tell an "authentic" black person from the color of his or her skin.

But hey--who's listening on this board, anyway?
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Well, African QUEEN....since the "darkest" people are sick and tired of being discriminated against and being made invisible

...and since what they FEEL INSIDE doesn't count and has never counted....

I can totally understand the word in the streets that they want their own separate group now.

I am sick of being at the BOTTOM of a bunch of Mulattoes who don't do a damned thing to represent black people.

I want to see AUTHENTIC BLACK WOMEN especially risen to their rightful place. I'm so sick of these yellow bitches who represent WHITENESS and WHITE SUPREMACY.

You be the damned rug if you want. I won't.

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But Kola, you are by your own admission half white. By claiming to represent "black african women" arent you yourself guilty of what you accuse Halle Berry and Lena Horne of doing?
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Kola, I don't need anybody telling me whom I want to marry. If I do find a gorgeous dark chocolate African or African-diaspora woman, fine. But whether or not she'll overlook me for a white man(or lighter-complexioned black, which usually happens)is another matter, indeed.


BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!

Grace Jones to Naomi Campbell to have ALL been rejected by black men and told they were "too dark" ..............long before they ever had to settle for WHITE men.

Dark Black Women are the ones with the LEAST options, and they...DO NOT....prefer White Men.

They are routinely .....ROUTINELY rejected by Black Men, and especially ones like yourself who talk "black" and talk "Africa"----but still seek out and marry LIGHT.

Don't tell that fucking lie on us!




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Benefit? I haven't benefited in this goddamn country. Neither has my "red" father, nor his equally "red" father(who was a day laborer), nor his still redder grandfather(who was a slave). Tonya and Kola are both immigrants from Africa who are held in a different light than the native born African-Americans.

And how black is my mother? Quite--on the inside. Blacker than you, I presume.

And didn't you say your father was an Arab archaeologist/junkie?

Who are you trying to fool?
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I am sick of being at the BOTTOM of a bunch of Mulattoes who don't do a damned thing to represent black people.

Mulattoes like...yourself?

*rolleyes*
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I don't see how ANYONE with half a brain...

...can read the books I write and the work I do and then compare me to Halle Berry or Lena Horne.

And in my case---my skin is chocolate and my hair is nappy.

I do not live the experience of Halle Berry or Lena Horne....or even a nappyheaded yellow woman.

The blood in my veins doesn't dictate how I'm treated.




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Kola Boof is not an "immigrant".

I was put up for adoption by my colorist Egyptian grandmother.

I was raised by Black Americans and have lived in this country nearly 30 years...and have studied their history and spoken to thousands of them in 30 years about all the issues raised here.

You, P LEWIS, and your RED grandfathers certainly did manage to STAY RED didn't you?

Notice you didn't get blacker. Yet you talk so much "blackness".

Uhnhu.

And Tonya is not African. She's a Black American.


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Oh, and P LEWIS...if your mother was "blacker" on the inside than me....

....then you would be more inclined to agree with the things I'm laying down.

The Black American AFROCENTRISTS study and talk blackness/africa

...but you don't want Black Babies.

You think we can't see you with our eyes?


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I don't believe what Kola says because with a face and boobs like hers, she should not have any problems finding a black man. Also, Grace Jones and Naomi Campbell are unfortunately skinny, and black men generally don't like skinnies. (Note: Naomi Campbell is not really black because she is half-Chinese--or so the HS-supported black purists on this board would have us believe!!)
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How do YOU know I don't want black babies?

Or are you just assuming that I don't?
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Who in the fuck said Kola Boof has a problem finding a black man????


That's just it.

You think that just because things are good for me with black men.....

....I shouldn't care about the majority of Black women for whom they aren't good.

And with 80% of the Black women in America being Brown to Jet black

it's amazing how educated and middle class and upper class Black men still manage to marry almost exclusively LIGHT SKIN.

While your father was doing all that TALK about "blackness and Africa"----why didn't he marry a true Black Queen?

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And in my case---my skin is chocolate and my hair is nappy.

But you're not near as black as your "real" black African mother, are you? Why should you represent people who look like her?

I do not live the experience of Halle Berry or Lena Horne....or even a nappyheaded yellow woman.

Nor do you live the experience of blue black women like your mother.
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You say you're African American, not African.

85% of African Americans are still very dark and still look West African.

Why didn't your family men choose BLACK AFRICAN AMERICANS?

Why go generations being red and lightskinned?

BECAUSE YOU BENEFITTED FROM AMERICAN "colorism". THAT'S WHY.


_________
After all your traveling to Europe and such
...I'm still waiting for you to visit West Africa, the land of your ancestors and the people you like TALKING about so much.





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Kola,

My father did marry a true Black Queen.

Thank you very much.

BTW there are many Black Africans(sub-Saharan)who are reddish-brown like us. What the fuck are you talking about?
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I'm a bit confused. If black men hate "real" black women and Kola Boof looks like a "real" black woman, then how is it that Kola is adored by these same negrophobic black men?
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Kola keeps reading Arabist color concepts into Black American's lives. She doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. BTW my family members range from coal-black to lily-white, even to this day. We are not fucking colorist, caste-oriented Arabs. Please stop reading that crap into African-American people. WE ARE NOT IN THE SUDAN!
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Right Kola..


And it might make a difference in the black world when light people like these decide they must separate from us..

Then they will no longer represent us. It is better to have nobody represent us then for someone whom is not us to represent us.

Like I represent south Sudanese (us) not AAs them...

I love them though and adore their culture, but I represent me, and "me don't exist in hollywood.." And I don't think I'm interested, lol...
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snotfilledlungs,

That's because Kola is brave enough to get her black man.. other women just have a break down, lol...
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Snotfilledlungs, Kola is usually quite inconsistent in the things that she says. She's a lot like Hitler, full of roiling emotions, bombastic rhetoric that is usually contradictory--but the people who slavishly follow what she says usually don't recall the holes in her rhetoric because they are so mesmerized by the wild emotionalism and feel-good generalizations about light and dark skin, about Palestinians cutting off the tongues of black women, etc. Whether all these things are true or not, her rhetoricizing is not only shoddy, but dangerously divisive, given the time period we're living in(eg., a closet-Nazi administration). We need more unity and not more bullshit disunity based on color gradations(which is a lot of 1924 shit).
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Where did I say that "ALL" black men are negrophobic hating black women?

My Black American father, Marvin Johnson, LOVES black women and married a black woman.

MOST of my opinions come from him.

My children's father LOVES black women, although he's not American.

"Some" of my brothers are wonderful black men.

But there's a HUGE problem in this country that people like you try to ignore and deny.

Your sons are "accidentally" raised by you to covet WHITENESS. And it's everywhere.

Black men are NOT BEING BORN.

because of it





And PLEWIS, you keep proving that you don't even know your own country.

Have you not read Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, Maya Angelou, Nikki Giovanni, Gloria Naylor?

I'm not saying anything any different from what they witnessed---I'm just saying it louder and with no mercy.

EVERYBODY knows that your caste system is WORSE than the situation in Sudan. At least the blacks in Sudan stick to the blacks....and are attacked by OUTSIDER (Arab whites and blacks). You don't even know the system in SUDAN, which is why you're making such ignorant commentary on it.

Black American men are the most COLORSTRUCK men I have ever encountered anywhere in the world.

And more and more AFRICAN and 3rd World Black Women and BLACK AMERICAN women are going to continue to point this hypocracy out.

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Kola, I agree with you.

In every movie they put a dark black man with a high yellow woman and it's always been that way going back to Oscar Micheaux. The music videos and black men's magazines further prove your point.

Girl, you never get AfricanAmerican brothers to admit that they're colorstruck, but they are.

They think anything is beautiful but a black woman plus a lot of them come from high yellow mothers that promote it.




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Africanqueen, fuck Hollywood....We(African-Americans) hardly exist there, either....

Furthermore, South Sudanese are generally darker even than the majority of Sub-Saharan Africans.
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Oh now I'm a lot like HITLER.

Well I tell you what. Put me and you on any block in any black neighborhood and let us run it down and see who the people agree with.

Even the "brothas".

You're out of touch and you have no problem essaying the White man's racism, but you make excuses for African people's intra-racism.

It's a worldwide epidemic and much of it is spreading from Black America and their legendary desire to be mulatto and white.

Your own communities are raging the same complaint I am.



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Kola, Alice Walker and Maya Angelou were both involved deeply with white men--Maya Angelou's beau was English.

And no, you can't compare Black America's problem to that in Sudan. What you're probably getting from them is good old fashioned, all-American XENOPHOBIA.

I don't need to read Toni Morrison OR Alice Walker--or even James Baldwin--to know my own goddamn country, I've been here 36 out of my 38 years. And I can speak for myself.

If Kola Boof can go and get herself a black man, then she should go ahead and get one and quit whining about all these other assholes who only want white meat. Because frankly, my dear, to all of us thinking people, you don't sound very credible when you keep whining about it.
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Kola keeps reading Arabist color concepts into ***Black American's lives. She doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. BTW my family members range from coal-black to lily-white, even to this day. We are not fucking colorist, caste-oriented Arabs. Please stop reading that crap into African-American people. WE ARE NOT IN THE SUDAN!***

But Plewis, I am African-American and there are many, many, women like me who know exactly what she's talking about. The majority of AA women are dark-skinned, and what people like you fail to realize is that what Kola speaks is our life story. How PRESUMPTUOUS of you to claim that *SHE* doesn't know what she's talking about. Not only are you completely ill-informed, the majority of us (AA WOMEN) are offended by people like you, who think it's cool to speak on our behalf without knowing or caring who the fuck we are.... And, that, my dear, is why we NEED to separate!

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Can some please define colorstruck...

Thanks.
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Amen Tonya.

I was so glad when Kola Boof came out.

My husband even agrees with a lot of what she says. We can see it!



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"It's a worldwide epidemic and much of it is spreading from Black America and their legendary desire to be mulatto and white."

No shit. It's called COLONIAL MENTALITY.

Everybody in the black world is affected with it to varying degrees, yourself included. (You even straightened your hair once, I recall.) We all know these things. Afro-Ams aren't stupid pickanninies.
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"Not only are you completely ill-informed, the majority of us (AA WOMEN) are offended by people like you...."

Yeah, I know. They're deeply offended by me but they are a-ok with an asshole like George W. Bush.

What department of Homeland Security do YOU work for?

Jesus.
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Thank you ladies! :-)


Colorstruck is colorism.

It's when African or Black People anywhere in the Diaspora...favor all things "white" and the trickle down from whiteness, which is yellow, mixed, etc.

Black women wanting "good hair".
Black men wanting "light wives" to produce lighter babies.

Black people who date with an eye searching for the lightest mate they can find.

Colorstruck is when black people believe in the superiority of lightness and gravitate to lightness, placing it above their own coloring.

It is not natural for "Black people" to want light kids and white looking spouses. This is colorism.

Africans worldwide have suffered from it for about 200 years now.




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Plewis,

I hear ya, "Fuck hollywood!" LOL..

Yup, South Sudanese are the opposite of "pale" for black folks, and I wish most black folks adored their most darkenned brothers and sisters because the white men and women adore their most pale brothers and sisters.

It is beautiful, this skin color... and I will not trade it for anything or anyone in any day..

Black folks (including South Sudanese who hate being black for being hated for being black) don't know what they missing.

And whether you believe her or not, Kola is right about how black men prefer white women over black women.

Believe me... even in South Sudan... brown sisters are the god of all men.

Unless they're no longer available, they marry the darkenned.. the dark girl always comes last in the black community.

And this is so sad. I think it is time we support Kola and face the truth.. really, seriously...
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P Lewis,

I still straighten my hair once every year or so.

I still wear weaves.

I have never denied that I am affected just like everyone else.

I DO NOT HATE BLACK MEN...for being affected.

What I get mad at, is their DENIAL that our people are sick.


One reason I love Spike Lee is because he ADMITTED that he is "colorstruck" and "working on it".

He admitted that he only dated lightskinned women, because that's what the black brothas hyped.

Only by admitting it can we start to raise our kids differently.






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And.. the fact that you think *WE* are feeble-minded enough to be "MESMERIZED" by the likes of Hitler, says a lot about what you really think of us. Yet you claim to know us. Please! You know us no better than "the white man"

...The racist one at that!

God, I hate uppity black men.

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P LEWIS...it's not black men's fault that they are colorstruck.

This is the result of slavery and colonialism and we have been conditioned to choose light over dark.

Black women are far more willing to admit it...when they are colorstruck. They will admit it and try to change.

But black men deny there's a problem.

Black women and black children CONSTANTLY suffer, because black men put their money, their love, their time--their everything--into lightness and whiteness.

I am an African woman--the black man's mother--whether you like it or not, and it has to stop.


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"And.. the fact that you think *WE* are feeble-minded enough to be "MESMERIZED" by the likes of Hitler, says a lot about what you really think of us. Yet you claim to know us. Please! You know us no better than "the white man"

Uh, I didn't say that you were mesmerized by Hitler. I compared Kola Boof's blood-purity bullshit and her roiling overemotionalism to that of Hitler. And YES, you are mesmerized by her rubbish the same way that Germans were(and still are) mesmerized by Hitler's rubbish. Don't get it twisted.

Secondly, you aren't even one of us. YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT EVEN BLACK. How the hell do I know what you REALLY look like behind that goddamn computer screen? I know all about COINTELPO divide-and-rule bullshit tactics, and this is exactly what the fuck I'm smelling. I may not speak for black women(I'm not a black woman), and I don't have to. But God knows, YOU certainly don't speak for them either.

And Kola, when you say "P LEWIS...it's not black men's fault that they are colorstruck. This is the result of slavery and colonialism and we have been conditioned to choose light over dark"--that is precisely what I said earlier. You want the bullshit to stop, go to the root of the problem--oh, wait a sec. You are part of it.

Dig:

Questionable Sources: Ms Kola Boof's "Fatwa"

Freedom House's reliance on questionable sources is nowhere more obvious than in its taking at face value the claims of Kola Boof. (28) Ms Boof's "sudden" appearance on the Internet "several months ago" was noted by 'The New York Times' in December 2002. (29) Ms Boof came to prominence when she claimed that she had been made the subject of a Sudanese government fatwa issued by a Sudanese diplomat in London, Mr Jamal Ibrahim, allegedly sentencing her to death for being opposed to the Khartoum government and blaspheming Islam. Ms Boof claimed that she had been sentenced to be beheaded. These claims were carried by several media outlets, and repeated by Freedom House. (30)

On the basis of these and other previous claims Ms Boof quickly emerged as a darling of the anti-Sudan campaign, and was embraced by activists such as Maria Sliwa of "FreeWorldNow". (31) Building on her anti- Khartoum theme, Ms Boof also stated in interviews for example: "I am a political activist, a soldier in Dr. John Garang's Sudanese People's Liberation Army". (32)

Every one of her claims unravelled under examination. The facts were far less interesting. Mr Jamal Ibrahim, the deputy chief of mission at the Sudanese embassy in Britain, wrote an article critical of Ms Boof and claims she had previously made, an article published in 'Al-Sharq Al- Awsat' in September 2002. In this article he criticised her "falsehood and dishonesty" in previous claims. Ms Boof subsequently claimed that this article was in fact a fatwa, inaccurately stating that a fatwa is "a contract for assassination". [33]

Unlike Freedom House, 'The New York Times' took the trouble to confirm the claims made Ms Boof. The newspaper spoke to Sheikh Omar Bakri, a senior judge of the Islamic Sharia court in London, and someone noted for his forthright views. Ms Boof claimed that he had been party to the fatwa. He stated that "nobody issued a fatwa against Kola Boof". [34] The Islamic judge went on to state: "I know she was criticized by a Muslim official in London, but he isn't in a position to issue a fatwa." This was confirmed by Mr Ibrahim himself, who said the claim was "bizarre and baseless". [35] Mr Ibrahim did criticise Ms Boof in his article, and there would appear to be considerable grounds for legitimate criticism, but as 'The New York Times' observed "criticism isn't the same as a fatwa".

Ms Boof's claims about her early life are similarly flawed. She alleged that Murahleen tribesmen killed her parents in Omdurman. These horsemen are only found in southern Kordofan, several hundred miles away from Omdurman. It is the equivalent in American terms of being attacked in a Washington-DC suburb by a band of Oklahoma cattlemen. She also claimed that the SPLA were in existence in 1977. It is also a simple matter of record that the SPLA was founded only in late 1983. [36] Ms Boof's claim that her father was murdered in 1978 for speaking "up against...the brutish Islamic government of Sudan" similarly jars with reality. In 1978 Sudan was resolutely secular, governed by President Jaafar Nimeiri, a close American ally whose government was one of the largest recipients of international American economic and military assistance. The present Islamic government in Sudan only came to power in 1989.

Ms Boof made a number of other claims about herself. In August 2002, she claimed to have been shot at outside Los Angeles by Arab Muslim gunmen, and that she shot back. Boof further claimed to be under FBI protection. 'The New York Times' reported that the FBI "had no knowledge of Ms. Boof". [37]

Ms Boof was also said by 'The New York Times' to have "told flamboyant stories about her life in Egypt and Morocco, where, she said she was a B-movie actress and a high level prostitute, operating in luxury hotels..." It was during this time in Morocco that Ms Boof also claimed to have had an affair with Osama bin Laden in 1996. She claimed to have met bin Laden in a Senegalese restaurant "which was the only place in Marrakech where they knew how to cook lion's meat" (one of her "favorite" dishes). She claimed that she subsequently became "Osama's mistress" and that she had "lounged about in silk and diamonds". [38] Boof has also made other jarring claims, speaking, for example, about "rich Palestinians who have black women slaves working in their kitchens, their tongues cut out of their heads." [39]

Ms Boof's somewhat elaborate claims began to be actively challenged by the end of 2002. 'The New York Times' examined her allegations in some depth. (40) In an interview with the newspaper, Ms Boof admitted to being manipulative: "I can't deny that I'm a conniving person...I have to manipulate the system, and I don't mind if you publish that...". The newspaper discredited the fatwa claim. Ms Boof was dropped by her publisher at the end of 2002.

And, despite having been warmly embraced and extensively publicised by the anti-Sudan lobby within the United States and taken up by Freedom House, Ms Boof's claims soon became even too outrageous for all but the diehard fringe. The SPLA has also distanced itself from Ms Boof. 'The New York Times' reported that the SPLA "embraced her and then backed away, as Ms. Boof's personal, if not literary credentials have been called into question." 'The New York Times' reported that anti-Sudan activists such as Ms Silwa has also "distanced" herself from Kola Boof's claims, quoting her as stating: "I don't think it behooves our human rights interest to connect ourselves with someone who is inconsistent and can't prove her identity." [41]

Deng Ajak, secretary-general of the anti-government Sudan Commission for Human Rights, stated that he was initially supportive of Ms Boof "but when she said in one of her own e-mails to me that she had a brief encounter of dating Osama bin Laden, I said to my colleagues that we need to pull the plug on this one". He stated that "This could be one of the most impressively spun and choreographed pieces of fiction that one could imagine".

It is obvious that Freedom House has repeated "impressively spun" claims about Sudan. It would be disturbing enough that Freedom House was seen to have relied upon one source subsequently seen to have questionable where not simply false. To have relied upon a multiplicity of such sources clearly undermines much of the image it has projected of Sudan and Sudanese affairs. It can also only but cast a shadow on Freedom House's integrity on other issues.

(Quoted from
Freedom House on Sudan: Shrill, Contentious and Unreliable, by David Hoile)


Kola Boof got discredited in the mainstream white press two years ago. She used to be a shill on ultra-right-wing FOX news before she was outed. But there are a lot of gullible African-Americans out there, a lot of folks still believing in the Willie Lynch letter crap, in that Snapple bottle shit, etc., and in Kola Boof.

You know something's wrong with her if she insinuates that the fault of colorism lies at the hands of black men. Yeah, right. Blame the most vulnerable people in the world-wide, white power structure. Give me a goddamn break. Kola is reading her own personal problems into those of the African diaspora proper, which is why she can't get a real grip on things. And deep down, she has no genuine respect for African-Americans; she sees us as fools.
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Black women and black children CONSTANTLY suffer, because black men put their money, their love, their time--their everything--into lightness and whiteness.

I agree that there is a bias towards lighter skin and caucasoid features in the American black community, among men and women. However, I think statements like the one you made above are a bit hyperbolic. I've lived all over the US and in my experience, the great majority of black men are courting, dating and marrying women who look themselves. This becomes less true as you move up the socioeconomic ladder, but is still the case for most, IMO.
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Oh please, P LEWIS.

You're so desperate that you posted the comments of DAVID HOILE and the ESPAC (Sudan's Public Relations Firm)...the same man who tried for years to discredit Nelson Mandela?

All of that bullshit you posted is from a Sudanese owned and operated web site....and none of their PASTING together is factual.



Also, I'm interested to know....

what do you think of Andrew Young and P.J. O'Rourke?

Are they just spies trying to invent Kola Boof as well?



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I didn't say Hitler --

I said the likes of Hitler, which is exactly what you have defined Kola to be....

So.. ya see, Boo.. you've gotten it "twisted."

But that's ok, sugar; you'll be alright.

***Secondly, you aren't even one of us. YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT EVEN BLACK. How the hell do I know what you REALLY look like behind that goddamn computer screen? I know all about COINTELPO divide-and-rule bullshit tactics, and this is exactly what the fuck I'm smelling. I may not speak for black women(I'm not a black woman), and I don't have to. But God knows, YOU certainly don't speak for them either.***

WOOOOOO! Sounds conspiracy minded, to me. Yet we're the ones that's...

"MESMERIZED!"

Whatever, Playah.

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(Quoted from
Freedom House on Sudan: Shrill, Contentious and Unreliable, by David Hoile)


Note that David Hoile, who lives in Germany, is a member of the Boness Nazi Party and works for the government of Sudan.

And read my autobiography if you want the facts.




ALSO, make sure you read THIS article.

THE KOLA BOOF HOAX


http://doorofkush.50megs.com/contact.html





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I just read this article....and

The New York Times did not write/do half the shit that is written in this piece by Nazi Party member DAVID HOILE.

In the TIMES article, I never said: "I can't deny I'm a conniving person". That's bullshit they made up!

Deng Ajak has said publicly that the TIMES misquoted and changed his words around. He appears in MY AUTOBIOGRAPHY

...with the rest of the SPLA leaders, all of whom gave me permission to write about them and our work together.

One thing I'm glad to see, however...

..is that men like P. LEWIS and others who try so hard to silence me with these blatant lies....are actually fearful of the work I'm doing.

Fearful of the stones I'm over-turning.

And my autobiography is about to blow all your shit....sky high.



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"Oh please, P LEWIS.

You're so desperate that you posted the comments of DAVID HOILE and the ESPAC (Sudan's Public Relations Firm)...the same man who tried for years to discredit Nelson Mandela?"

I'm not desperate. It's just that when one puts together the things you've said, side by side with each other, they often contradict one another. And whether this David Hoile is a shill for the Sudanese government or not, it still doesn't put you in the right. For crying out loud, LITTLE GREEN FOOTBALLS(a totally right-wing, anti-black, anti-Muslim blog)hails you as a hero. So did FOX news, and we all know what we're like.

Sometimes slimeballs expose each other, you know. You can call me one, but I don't care.

And Tonya, your fucking attitude is the main reason black women like you can't find a decent man. Your calling me "playah," for instance. I hate that bling-bling crap culture more than anything, but your bigoted, prejudiced ass wound not know that, would it?

Hitler, the likes of Hitler--you're splitting hairs, lady. Don't insult my intelligence. Call me paranoid, but OUR goddamn house was bugged during the sixties and seventies by the FBI and we know about bullshit tacticts like the ones you use.

Yeah, whatever's right, asshole. Take your elitist, phony reactionary colorist shit and cram it.
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FOX NEWS hailed me as a hero?

You have got to be OUT TO FUCKING LUNCH.

Read this:

http://doorofkush.50megs.com/contact.html

FOX NEWS treated me like shit.

They edited out my defense of Amiri Baraka's poem.

They only wanted to talk about Osama Bin laden.




And obviously, because my work is anti-Arab anti-Muslim.....whatever that other group would be glad to hear what I have to say as a North African woman.

No BLACK person could possibly support the Arab Muslim nations, all of which are raping and killing Africa daily.








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"And whether you believe her or not, Kola is right about how black men prefer white women over black women."

Africanqueen, it's mostly the middle- and upper-classes who do, and even then, they aren't in the majority. You-all keep saying this, but wherever I go in the world, I simply do not see a whole bunch of black men running after white women. BTW, white women have flat butts, and black men do not like that. Thank you.

And Kola, why get on POX news in the first damn place, knowing full well they're totally full of shit??
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Someone said Ludacris and Allen Iverson are mulattos, now i think that is very funny. There are plenty of light skinned African Americans who have a dark mother, father, sister, brother or cousin. Trying to separate light skinned people from their families is crazy. It would be just as bad when a slave owner would separate Black people in America from their families. Light, dark or brown, WE ARE ONE!!!

As far as black men being color struck, i am not one who is color struck. I was born in the south and most black men in the south are not color struck. But now i live on the west coast and black men here are definitely COLOR STRUCK.

Let's not forget, there are just as many color struck black women as there are men. Put a light skinned brotha in a room full of dark skinned brothas and see which one black women will find the most handsome. And for those of you who have a problem with light skinned African Americans, you should go and complain to white men, cause they could not keep their filthy hands off of our black women. As soon as those slaves ships landed here, a lot of those black women were already pregnant with mixed babies. But after 400 years of hell, we are still here, whether we be dark, brown or light skinned. WE ARE ONE AND NOTHING OR NOONE WILL EVER DIVIDE US!!
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You quoted/posted a bunch of LIES pasted together by DAVID HOILE, a member of the NAZI PARTY---the same man who tried to tear down Nelson Mandela!!

Very soon, it will be impossible for you tell the kind of LIES that you have written here about me.

People will know what I'm about and they will have FACTS....not to mention, the word of my supporters in the SPLA.

You are desperate to discredit me....because I uncovered you're colorstruck lineage.

I will not be silenced.




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Why would Farrakhan be on FOX NEWS?

Why Amiri Baraka?

Why Jesse Jackson and all the other BLACK PEOPLE who go on FOX NEWS?

BTW---I was kicked off the show towards the end for saying that Bin Laden is a "White man".

YEAH....you really know your facts, P LEWIS.



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BLkAmericanKing:

Let's not forget, there are just as many color struck black women as there are men.


KOLA:

Bull.

Almost all the black male "sex symbols" are DARK SKINNED!

Dark Black women put Denzel Washington, Michael Jordan, 50 Cents and all the rest on top!!!!

The females are NO WHERE NEAR as "colorstruck" as the males are.




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"You quoted/posted a bunch of LIES pasted together by DAVID HOILE, a member of the NAZI PARTY---the same man who tried to tear down Nelson Mandela!!"

Which Nazi party? All I know is that he's some right-wing libertarian. But like I said, nutjobs can and will expose one another.

I never wrote any lies. Need I drag up every single thing you've written on this board and elsewhere and lay it out, and show the contradictions?

I may be off-color and occasionally rude as hell, but I certainly never lie and contradict myself. And no, sorry, I have no desperation to discredit you because you can do that on your own. There are too many like you nowadays, in these suck-ass post 9-11 times. (Come to think of it, I never knew of you before 9-11.) Some of you just popping up, some of you resurrecting yourselves for the occasion....like Oriana Fallaci, Ann Coulter, etc. I don't think it matters whether you-all are left or right-wing, womanist or male chauvanist, black or white, you "commentators" are just sowing unnecessary confusion and divisions among people. You guys batten on people's misery and frustrations, and are always pointing the fingers at the wrong targets, or pointing at the branches on the rotten tree of our world(like black men's ignorant bullshit), without looking at the overall root cause, which is, as you yourself said, is white colonialism.

And one other thing: blame black men all you want, but they did not come out of a vacuum. They have black mothers who gave birth to them, raised and nurtured them, and if these black boys are growing up to spurn black women then certainly SOMETHING has got to be wrong on your end. We are not straw men, cartoon characters or monkeys. We are by-products of an unhealthy, morally bankrupt and spiritually contaminated whitified and westernized civilization. And so are black women, by the way. So don't get in my damn face just because I don't look like Michael Jordan. (Frankly, I wish I did, because I would have had a helluva lot better luck with the ladies, at least in the USA.)
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"Why would Farrakhan be on FOX NEWS?

Why Amiri Baraka?

Why Jesse Jackson and all the other BLACK PEOPLE who go on FOX NEWS?"

1. Farrakhan is frequently on the news and has been since the 1980s.

2. Baraka got on FOX news because of the controversy surrounding his poem "Somebody Blew Up America".

3. And Jesse Jackson is always on the fucking news, more so than Farrakhan.

When FOX news highlights blacks, they in no way mean any black person any good, as you yourself found out.
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**smile** at BlkAmericanKing's respond..


Brother, where was you from the beginning of this bullshit, LOL..


Very very good point.


After all, there can be a mullatto in the family and a brown sugar from the same mother and father!

And nothing can break a family, just leave it at that, lol.

But hey, I will agree with Kola on the who is more color struct than the other part... it is the black man, the beautiful black man, LOL.. and it's so so sad I must say.

Men are supose to be the leaders right? Well if they are affected of this disease more than the woman, then it's impossible to have a black functioning society. Then the leadership must then come from the woman, which it truly is actually.. Black women loooooove their black men so damn much !
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"And for those of you who have a problem with light skinned African Americans, you should go and complain to white men, cause they could not keep their filthy hands off of our black women. As soon as those slaves ships landed here, a lot of those black women were already pregnant with mixed babies. But after 400 years of hell, we are still here, whether we be dark, brown or light skinned. WE ARE ONE AND NOTHING OR NOONE WILL EVER DIVIDE US!!"

THANK YOU!!!
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Well then why in the fuck are you here on MY BOARD, P. Lewis?

Why is it that you people who detest and hate what I am and stand for are always the ones in my face?

Shit. Get the fuck out.

And everything....EVERYTHING you just said about White Supremacy and Westernized Civilization, Colonialism and slavery......is clearly written about in detail in all my works.

Of course, we weren't on the subject of WHITE MEN---and, of course, you've never read any of my books.

That is COMMONLY the black man's arrogance.

But iregardless, you've crossed a line with me and I see you as an enemy. So fuck you and get lost.









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"And everything....EVERYTHING you just said about White Supremacy and Westernized Civilization, Colonialism and slavery......is clearly written about in detail in all my works.

Of course, we weren't on the subject of WHITE MEN---and, of course, you've never read any of my books.

That is COMMONLY the black man's arrogance.

But iregardless, you've crossed a line with me and I see you as an enemy. So fuck you and get lost."

So what's the beef, then?

And like I said, complain about the black man's arrogance, but remember he came out of, was reared and nurtured by a black woman. Face it--you know I'm right, and it seems you just hate to be wrong, even for just once.

BTW the only line I crossed was simply showing you that your schtick had holes in it, so to speak. You weren't slick enough....
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Kola

I don't know why brother P.Lewis is here.

But I'm here hoping I can see some more of them freaky ass pictures....lol.


What the hell kind of lotion do you use to get that gloss woman!

I know you can't get it in America.
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Women around the globe tend to have lighter skin than men, on average. This might well be due to sexual selection: for whatever reason, men might be wired to perceive lighter skin as more "feminine," and/or women might be wired to perceive dark skin as "masculine."
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Women around the globe tend to have lighter skin than men, on average.

This is Western bullshit.

In AFRICA, all over the damned continent, you see a majority of extremely DARK men married to extremely DARK women---their color is the exact same.

Only the U.S. MEDIA (both white and nigger) creates these images of Dark Black men paired with Lighter women as being "normal".

It is not normal.

In their own natural surroundings, Black people mate and love other Black people.


Cedd

King and Queen of Ghana


In Ethiopia, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Morocco is where you run into "colorism". And even in Ethiopia, once you leave Addis Ababba (the capital)--the people of the countryside are a majority Blue Black and so are the couples.

bb

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India and all the Asian nations---Japan, Korea, China, Thailand--have terrible "color caste" systems where they disallow darker women of their groups from Procreating...as to get lighter.

The Palestinians sterilize the black women in their group---out of fear of becoming Black again.











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Dark black women did not put dark black men on top. White teenagers put 50 cents on top, cause they are the biggest buyers of rap and hiphop...LOL...Michael Jordan's athletic abilities put him on top and also at the height of Michael's career it seemed that white, black women etc. were into dark black men with shaved heads. Black women like to play a game, if they had their way, they would mostly wanna see light skinned brothas on top.
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"In Ethiopia, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Morocco is where you run into "colorism"."

Because they have been brainwashed by Arabist imperialism. BTW there are a lot of fools in black Africa(Ghana, etc.)using skin-lighteners and other crap, and unfortunately it seems to be spreading.
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I just think it's a goddamn shame that not only have white men succeeded in turning the world against us, but even some of our own women.

White men started the shit, now they're coming out untouched and clean smelling like a bed of roses while our women are flocking to THEM for comfort and protection from us.


We're gonna have to scrap this generation and start all over again.


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LOL plewis...Kola blaims skin lightners in Africa on Black Americans, because of people like Michael Jackson...LOL

If the blacks in Africa would stop being so damn tribal maybe they could UNITE and put a stop to colorism in Africa.
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This is Western bullshit.


No, they've actually measured this.

From a study on human skin color varation (Jablonski, 1999, p. 16):

For reflectances at all wavelengths, females were found to be lighter (exhibiting higher reflectance values) than males

The difference is pretty small, however.

In AFRICA, all over the damned continent, you see a majority of extremely DARK men married to extremely DARK women---their color is the exact same.

I see the same thing in Alabama where I live now.

Only the U.S. MEDIA (both white and nigger) creates these images of Dark Black men paired with Lighter women as being "normal".

It is not normal.


I agree

In their own natural surroundings, Black people mate and love other Black people.

So do the vast majority in the US.

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Folks I see some of you young black men frontin. You see this is wrong with our race. We just don't know when to give it up, let go, and move on. Africanqueen this includes you babymama. Your not capturing the points of them mulatto/mixed folk. Whether or not you agree with them what's a fact is that the world is changing in light. No matter what you think things are changing if not changed already and that's just the world. You cant' stop the natural processes of this world it's just the way things are my blackqueen. In all dat I'm just being fo real sista. Snaps
Blckamerican you claim to be black but you still want to hold onto them mixed folk. You think they will let you do that to them? Come on brotha. If a white man went up to you and told you you was a monkey I don't think you'd let that happen. Shit my man grab the dice and have enough balls to pursue a nice chocolate babymama like Kola or Africanqueen. You ain't mixed your a black brotha stay with our own and forget them light skins (a word I don't even believe in). Things already divided that's just the way of life we were never meant to hold onto them mixed folk anyway just like we ain't mean to hold onto any white man. I support a mixed race and hell even a dark brown race. Shit. Whatever causes no confrontation. I don't get you my fellow brotha's quit looking back at history because everyone is jsut going to run you ova dat way. Represent that magnolia.

About that women are lighter post. Man I ain't neva laugh so hard in my life.

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Rustam..
Amen brotha. Keep the strength with black man (Black to dark brown) and the black woman (Black to dark brown). Don't be ashamed keep the blackness.

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Simon

Respect

You said Magnolia, where you repping from...Mississippi?

I think one of the problems we're dealing with here is the AfroAmericans seeking to unite with our own is not being respected.

If we chose not to call ourselves Black but "colored"...then there would be another problem.

Nearly ALL AfroAmericans are mixed to various degree with either white, Native American, or both. Just like the Blacks of Puerto Rico, Brazil, Haiti, and Dominican Republic.

The only difference between us and them is the language.


Unlike most Latin Blacks, we ACKNOWLEDGE our Blackness and are proud of our African heritage.
But instead of respecting that, some people would rather use that against us and claim we aren't really Black.

I notice some of the same people who claim to hate mixed Blacks and want nothing to do with them.....some of thier best friends from college and work are white!


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Brother_rustam, for what it's worf, Simonlawl is a troll.
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Respect my brotha rusam
Respect.
Well ya we got some blacks that are mixed with a little bit here and there and that be them dark browns. But people really mixed I mean come on brotha how they going to be the same as us. Whether thare are a biracial or not biracial mixed men and women ain't black (black to dark brown) like us. Let them (light skins, mulatto's, whatever) keep their own. Either your black or you ain't so I don't accept the term "mixed black". Them people in Puerto Rico, Brazil and Domincan republic they are multiracial and of their own race. It's the Haitians on da the other hand that are our black brothers. Black love to us blacks. Procreate with the black and dark brown. Let's rediscover our black african king and seek a reform for the betterness of our cultural psychology. Kola has provided a lot of incite on this.

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***And for those of you who have a problem with light skinned African Americans, you should go and complain to white men, cause they could not keep their filthy hands off of our black women. As soon as those slaves ships landed here, a lot of those black women were already pregnant with mixed babies.*** BLKING

***And one other thing: blame black men all you want, but they did not come out of a vacuum. They have black mothers who gave birth to them, raised and nurtured them, and if these black boys are growing up to spurn black women then certainly SOMETHING has got to be wrong on your end. We are not straw men, cartoon characters or monkeys. We are by-products of an unhealthy, morally bankrupt and spiritually contaminated whitified and westernized civilization.*** Plewis

***And like I said, complain about the black man's arrogance, but remember he came out of, was reared and nurtured by a black woman. Face it--you know I'm right...*** Plewis

***I just think it's a goddamn shame that not only have white men succeeded in turning the world against us, but even some of our own women.*** Rustam

***White men started the shit...*** Rustam

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I tell you man.. nothing rubbs me the wrong way more than a bunch of grown ass crybaby faggots bitchin about what they momma did, what "the white man did" (never mentioning what they daddy DIDN'T DO), just whinning and bitchin about the same old bullshit.

WELL STOP.

You're grown ass men!

So what your momma screwed you.. and society fucked you up! Does that mean you're exempted from taking responsibility for your own lives???

NONE OF THAT SHOULD SERVE AS AN EXCUSE FOR ANYTHING...

much less being a colorist black man

A black boy, maybe(?). BUT NOT A BLACK MAN






Boy, I wish I was your kin cuz I'd beat the fuck out of you!

Shut the fuck up!

We're tired of hearing your bullshit. It's time you stand up and be a man! There's no excuse! It doesn't matter how you were raised -- you're not a child anymore! And the fact that you know "the white man" fucked you up means that you understand there's something wrong. So who the fuck you think is gonna fix it? I mean.. honestly.. what does blaming other people for the past accomplish? Does it mean that you are not responsible, therefore, there isn't shit you can do??? If so, get the fuck out of here!!!

We ain't trying to hear that shit anymore, cuz, frankly, WE'RE IN IT FOR US NOW -- YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. We fought for your spoiled asses for too long! This time we're fighting for us! So, unless you got something to add to the elimination of OUR struggles, WE REFUSE TO HEAR YOUR SISSY SHIT ANYMORE.............. bitches!

Tonya
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Applauding my ass off!

Thank you, Tonya. My name is Medusa. I have been on here years and this is why I come. To hear some sisters who think like me. But I am light skinned.



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Tonya I'm as black as the night.
Your all cool with me my mixed buddy. When a man no matter what race they are talks to you like that you as a woman have every right to tell them like it is. Medusa and Tonya (mixed folk), Please accept my apology on behalf of all my rude black brothas on here.

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Tonya,

It's black women like you who don't wanna face the facts. We are STRONG black men who are standing up and not afraid to tell the truth. The black men who are wimps and care nothing about you don't even bother to come on this board.

Brother Rustam and myself are STRONG black men who care about ALL black women, light, dark or brown skinned. But some of you black women would rather run around in the streets half naked, hanging out at the clubs talking too much while you should be at home raising your kids. One day black women are gonna wish they would have listened to good black men like Brother Rustam and myself.
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Oh your a silly young man Blk.
I used to be like you when I was young.
Until you realize how the world really is you'll understand. Ain't no such thing as a light or brown skinned black woman. Blkamerican you claim to be black but you keep holding onto the white man's offspring. Stay black with our dark brown and black women. About the black women it's black men like you that justifies their responses. If us black men would stay with out babymama's after they gave birth then you wouldn't have all these problems. Least to say at least I did that. Black and dark brown people is our black people.

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"We're tired of hearing your bullshit."

We black men are even more tired of hearing yours.


"It's time you stand up and be a man! There's no excuse!"


Who said we weren't men? The goddamn tooth fairy? Jesus.


"It doesn't matter how you were raised -- you're not a child anymore!"

Neither are you, so stop whining like one. And yes, you dumb fuck--if you knew anything about sociology/criminology--which I know you don't--you'd realize a lot of sociopaths and criminals(even black ones)had abusive mothers. Duhh, dumb-ass.

"And the fact that you know "the white man" fucked you up means that you understand there's something wrong. So who the fuck you think is gonna fix it?"

Like YOU even give a damn, whining endlessly on this board about black men who overlook you for real women.

"I mean.. honestly.. what does blaming other people for the past accomplish?"

I get it.....Black women are 100% innocent, God-like creatures full of sugar and spice and sopping sweet mammy-goodness. Lady, nobody is 100% innocent. Not me, not you, nobody. It's just that every problem has a root cause.


"Does it mean that you are not responsible...."

"Responsible"....Love that Jim-Crow rhetoric. Reminds me of the passage in Invisible Man where the narrator nearly has his balls on a chopping block after saying the word "social EQUALITY" instead of "RESPONSIBILITY". FYI, you don't know me very well when you speak of "responsibility"--I have my own responsibilities, thank you, and they are considerable.


"...therefore, there isn't shit you can do???"

I'm doing a hell of a whole lot more than you are. Try seeking out black men who don't have half a jewelry store flung around their necks, or who don't look like Denzel or Evander Holyfield.


"get the fuck out of here!!!"

After you, dearie.


"Irresponsibility is part of my invisibility; any way you face it, it is a denial. But to whom can I be responsible, and why should I be, when you refuse to see me?"

INVISIBLE MAN, Ralph Ellison
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According to the Simon Lawls of the world, Condi Rice, Armstrong Williams, Alan Keyes are all authentically black; they have black people's best interests at heart and are the absolute saviors of our race. Yeah, everybody else, us brown and tan and yellows, don't count; we're diluted bastards. Ja, ja. Ein Schwartzen Reich, Ein Schwartzen Volk, und ein Schwartzen Fuhrer!
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"It doesn't matter how you were raised -- you're not a child anymore!"

***Neither are you, so stop whining like one. And yes, you dumb fuck--if you knew anything about sociology/criminology--which I know you don't--you'd realize a lot of sociopaths and criminals(even black ones)had abusive mothers. Duhh, dumb-ass.***

Well.... I guess you told me (lol). The only thing is........ I happen to have a degree in Criminal Justice.. so I do know A LITTLE about sociology/criminology.. enough to inform you that not all black men are psychos (or "sociopaths") as you alluded.. out of frustration, maybe (lol)....

So what's your point?

By the way, what's MOST COMMON to black criminals and sociopaths is either a lack of a father (father figure), or an abusive father, not an abusive mother.

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More and more when reading all of these comments, the words "consider the source" keep echoing in my head. So, to me, it's all about vested interests. Everyone is touting what would best serve themself. There is, therefore, no consensus about what constitutes blackness; no common mentality, - which is why things stand a slim change of ever getting better for the descendants of America's slave population. And if I was a religious person I would give some thought to certain biblical interpretations that say the heirs of Ham, the son who mocked his father Noah, were cursed with the burden of color as a punishment.
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plewis, for what it's worth, simonlawl is a mulatto troll.
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Tonya is Dark Black, SIMON.

And I don't see how anyone can accuse SIMON of being any more of a troll than the rest of the sudden newbies.

Whoever he is, he has posted his identity just like you SNOT.

How do we know you're not a fat black woman by a cherokee woman?

I like Simon. Please don't run him away.

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"By the way, what's MOST COMMON to black criminals and sociopaths is either a lack of a father (father figure), or an abusive father, not an abusive mother."

Actually, most men who abuse women had abusive mothers, and spousal abuse is of course criminal and sociopathic. Furthermore, if you look at a lot of the serial killers(esp. white ones)they frequently had abusive and/or overprotective mothers....
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Correction:

Most men who abuse women were raised by mothers (or other women within his environment e.g. household) who were abused.

Also:

Sociopaths are not made -- they're born that way. Outside influences (i.e. their environment, an abusive father, for example) dictates whether they'll become criminals or not. Not all sociopaths are criminals. Simply put, these are people who are said to have no conscious nor fear. Some of our "heroes" are said, by some (including psychoanalysts), to be sociopaths. For example, the guy who flies a plane into the eye of a dangerous oncoming hurricane/tornado, so that he and the rest of us will have a better understanding of such events, is considered a sociopath by some.

Finally, I'm not at all saying that women, in general, don't abuse their chilren. (In fact, females who abuse their children are just as likely to be white, asian, hispanic, or other.. which is something that you seem to overlook) My point, however, is that most black men who end up being criminals come from homes where there is no father present. Fact. And most sociopaths who end up commiting cimes (such as murder) reports coming from a household where the father is the abuser. But keep in mind, some of them come from homes where there is no abuse present. Although abuse is believed to be one of the primary triggers, mental health professionals still don't know all of what influences a sociopath to commit murder or become a serial killer.

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Another thing, just like not all sociopaths are criminals..

NOT ALL CRIMINALS ARE SOCIOPATHS.


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"Sociopaths are not made -- they're born that way."

In America, they are. Elsewhere--in the real world, that is--they are shaped by social forces.
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Here's your problem Plewis:

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Tonya: Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 07:58 pm

I didn't say Hitler --

I said the likes of Hitler, which is exactly what you have defined Kola to be....

So.. ya see, Boo.. you've gotten it "twisted."

But that's ok, sugar; you'll be alright.

***Secondly, you aren't even one of us. YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT EVEN BLACK. How the hell do I know what you REALLY look like behind that goddamn computer screen? I know all about COINTELPO divide-and-rule bullshit tactics, and this is exactly what the fuck I'm smelling. I may not speak for black women(I'm not a black woman), and I don't have to. But God knows, YOU certainly don't speak for them either.***

WOOOOOO! Sounds conspiracy minded, to me. Yet we're the ones that's...

"MESMERIZED!"

Whatever, Playah.

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My use of present/past tense ebonics & slang got you to prejudge me and make a statement that not only turned out to be untrue, it ended up revealing more about you than anyone else.

Smooches.


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But if you act flippant, arrogant and dismissive, don't be surprised by the responses you are getting from men.

But you still can't prove that you really ARE black, can you? With all those internet trolls out there?
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How do you know what response I get from men? You and I never discussed such matters. Not only are you sexist, you are waaay ahead of yourself.
If you take the time to listen, maybe, you'll understand others more....
That way you won't need me to "prove" anything.... Slow down. :-)

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I would only assume reading the messages from this board. Maybe it is jumping the gun....maybe not.

Also, it seems that you have much more to prove than I do...you and Kola, of course. (I wonder what happened to her, anyway?) My not agreeing with everything Kola says, or everything you say, does not make me sexist. Profane, yes....sexist, I think not. That's just a matter of perception.
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P Lewis,

I have two children and lots of affairs to run.

I'm often away from this board days at a time and then pop up when I do have time.

Sometimes I sit here all day and post to my heart's content. Does that make sense?

My books are not---as you lied on another thread--self published.

I have the same publisher as Chris Hayden, "Door of Kush Books and Music". And the novel I'm currently writing will be published by the largest publisher in America in 2007.

I have "never" been a self-published author. Which just furthers your habit of dropping lies and non-facts in your desperation to smear and discredit those you have a personal problem with.

Yes, Keith Boykin is a personal friend of mines, yes, he's gay, and yes--he's 10 times more man than you will ever be.

I love Keith.

I will not be responding to your posts anymore...and I advise you not to mention my name in yours.

Say the wrong shit and I'll DELETE your posts.

So just step the fuck off while you still have a foot.

Kola



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plewis, I think you and brother rustam had some interesting observations to make about the racial situation. If you are offended by, or kicked out of Kola's "Kool Room", hop on over and argue with us under aalbc's "Race, Culture, and Economy" heading!
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BTW---

Tonya, and anyone else who was wondering.

I did not BAN the "mulatto" people from this board.

I warned them to stop using the word "Sambo" and such in their posts---and when they didn't, I began to DELETE their posts.

They assumed that they were banned.

But not a single one of them was banned and P LEWIS will not be banned either.

But he also won't be allowed to make up reckless LIES about me and post them on my board. As Cynique pointed out, he can do that on Troy's board.



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Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:14 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Plewis,

***But if you act flippant, arrogant and dismissive, don't be surprised by the responses you are getting from men.***

What.. am I suppose to be subservient, unassuming, and submissive...

because, then, I'd get the approval of men?

You don't see how that's exceedingly sexist???

Honestly?
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Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 01:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"What.. am I suppose to be subservient, unassuming, and submissive..."

Of course, not. You don't have to be a shrinking violet, anymore than you have to be an asshole.

There is a middle ground, which apparently you are not aware of.

"because, then, I'd get the approval of men? You don't see how that's exceedingly sexist???

Honestly?"

Stop reading things into my statements which are not there.
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Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 01:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Yes, Keith Boykin is a personal friend of mines, yes, he's gay, and yes--he's 10 times more man than you will ever be.

I love Keith."

That's nice. What makes you think I care whether or not he's gay(which I was already aware of, BTW)?

That's the trouble with you "womanist" types--you have to put people in neat little categories, and when they don't fit, you pitch a bitch. People are a lot more complex than you make them out to be, you know.
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Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 05:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So I'ma fuck'n asshole now?

Fuck you!

Tonya
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I take it back just spoke on the phone with Simon. He is most definitely not no troll. Nigga got the voice of a ghetto burd.Definitely a brotha. I like what he said and definitely agree with them true mixed folk like Tyra and Beyonce being with them own. My bad yall. We black and like Simon said we only the shades of black to dark brown. One love to us all.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 03:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Plewis you read wrong nigga. Bitches like Candi that got that negro look but a bit toner down is them s_ _ _ o people. They ain't mixed nor black in da true sense.
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I take it back just spoke on the phone with Simon. He is most definitely not no troll. Nigga got the voice of a ghetto burd.Definitely a brotha. I like what he said and definitely agree with them true mixed folk like Tyra and Beyonce being with them own. My bad yall. We black and like Simon said we only the shades of black to dark brown. One love to us all."

"Plewis you read wrong nigga. Bitches like Candi that got that negro look but a bit toner down is them s_ _ _ o people. They ain't mixed nor black in da true sense."

Bull, shit.

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Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 07:10 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I dont understand how people think light skinned black people are any less black than the dark people. The random genetics that determine skin color dont work out that way...a dark person could be just as(or more) "mixed" than somebody thats much lighter than them. If you were to judge just on the basis on skin color you would have siblings in different racial categories.

The typical african american family is multi-colored and its foolish to divide it along the lines of something as trivial as skin color.
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 02:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As a white man I never realized that there was a division among african americans concerning skin tone. I have been exposed to it over the years but I never connected the dots. Besides the usual tv shows about the issue, in 1980 I was at work beside two black women who were discussing being asked out on a date by one of the new guys at work. They both stated that they would not date him because he was too black. Which seemed odd to me at the time because they both were as black as he was.
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Black_wisdom_
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 02:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If light skinned blacks were seperated from dark skinned blacks as far as classification, what do you all think would be the effects?

I could see it being a benefit to the light skinned person more than being a benefit to the dark skinned counterpart...

So why do some on this board insist of this being done....you know what they say, be careful of what you wish for...

Oh, and for the record, I am a light skinned "black": woman. My father is half white and my mother is half native american (Indian)...which makes me damn fine!! lol!


I don't know think so. South Africa is a prime example. Coloreds who had aligned themselves with the white ruling elite are now finding themselves increasingly marginalized in the ever-more black-controlled South Africa. This is causing some degree of violence between angry displaced coloreds and black South Africans. So please don't be so sure that the result of an Apartheid-like separation would be beneficial to those who would attempt to segment themselves away from darker skinned blacks.

That said, I have many lighter-skinned family members who are pro-black, intelligent, and beautiful as all black people are beatiful. I aint giving them up nor would they imagine themselves non-black or somehow different/better than darker skinned blacks.

You, however, can go on your merry way, and you can take the rest of the coons who want to continue to denigrate African Americans with you, I don't care what color they are. That's the real community division we need: slave mentalities can go back to the plantation; progressive blacks of all colors can stay in the family.

Buh-bye, and remember, with your new race designation you can fight your own affirmative action and access battles; I'm sure you won't be marking "black" on any future applications.

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