"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Post Number: 3741
|Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 05:22 pm: |
”Oh my dear man, Ntsf. On one hand you said you don't want to debate this and then you wrote 2 pages defending your position. Sorry, not today my brother.”
Uh huh, and I was very clear about what I believe and where I stand. There was nothing to defend…PERIOD! I just told you what I believe.
”First, You can have your definition of a thug, that's yours. It's very Obvious that you seem to have taken his profession and twisted into his life. I mean come on Ntsf, we can stop that arguement right here. Denzel played the part of a dope snorting evil cop ………….arguement. They are all coon thug - right? NOT! But let me continue...."
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That’s funny. Denzel, Hallie and Terence played roles in a movie. All three have played numerous other roles before. They’re actors! That is not who they are. I have no idea how you attempted to twist what I said into such grandiose pretentious drivel. Carey, I’m somewhat surprised you would attempt such a desperate faux pas counter argument.
”On one hand you say you are a law abiding citizen - right. Then you admitted Kat Williams was accused of a crime (carrying a weapon) that he was found not guilty - right.”
Your dyslexia is showing my friend. I said he was not convicted but the guns (in the NYC case) were confiscated. That’s not the same thing as saying he was not guilty. People may not be convicted of crimes for various reasons. And it’s not because they didn’t do it. Just ask OJ and those who helped him. The cases of him (Katt) carrying or transporting firearms are documented. I told no lies. Your attempt to use “he was not found guilty” means nothing. HE STILL DID IT!!
”Yet again, you seemed to dodge this... (what's a coon?).”
First of all, I dodged nothing. Secondly, I guess you’re pretending illiteracy now –GO BACK AND READ WHAT I SAID! Not going to explain it again…..
”The point you convenently sidestepped: Is that reserved for blacks? I never heard you call a white man a coon.”
Let me explain this since you seem to struggle with reading and comprehension: Is it reserved for blacks? Yep! I SAID IT!! Ya got that??!! And I was very clear about why I use the term (go back and read what I said –again!) And as far as me calling a white man a coon –I have other descriptions for them when they provoke my ire. And they aren’t pretty either. I have used them before but since you’ve never read all my posts, you wouldn’t know about it.
Your failed attempt to interject whites and what names I call them for bad behavior into this discussion speaks to your invective desperation and inability to refrain from your tedious efforts for race baiting. Read this: WHITE PEOPLE DON’T HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH THIS SUBJECT!!! Next…..
”Slow your roll. Just who are you talking for? I think you should be talking in first person. No, I didn't know it,…..”
Wow! I…I…I really don’t know what to say now. Are you that dense or are you playing a role? I say that not to be harsh or nasty either. I’m very serious. What is that you do not believe or understand? You didn’t know whites (and other groups) have negative beliefs about black people? You were not aware that poor and antisocial behavior by Negroes plays directly into the negative stereotypes others have of black people? You knew nothing about this? Ummm….Ok….at this point. I believe you……
”….because only you have shown it.”
I’ve show it? Oh really? And you have examples of me indulging in bad and inexcusable behavior that supports negative stereotypes of black people? Ok….List them. Please, I’d like to see it….
”As I said, I've haven't heard the phrase "zip coon" in 30 years.”
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! And that means what?? Do you know how many terms I could probably list that you have never heard before? Read this (again): Just because you have not heard it does not mean it does not exist! Since when did anything have to be heard or approved by you in order for it to exist? Please explain…..
”NTST, it's obvious you are an intelligent man, but you should know that you are playing on the wrong battle field?”
Really? I see….And exactly what is this “wrong battlefield”? Details please…..
”If one followed your line of thinking they wouldn't be a Black American, they'd be a damn fool.”
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ya know, for a minute you had me going. When I read the above statement -I thought to myself is they guy serious???? Is he that f@#king stupid?? Then I realized what you are doing. It worked up until that sentence my friend. Then I realized what you were doing. I know you are not that stupid Carey. I don’t believe it. I know you said that to get a rise and….well…it worked -for about 20 seconds. I have about 30 more minutes before I go to the gym (I missed yesterday) so I’m going to continue on. Nice try though. I can appreciate your role as the provocateur and instigator. I don’t mind it……
”Look ...black = coon = anyone that gets arrested for carrying a gun = anyone that plays a villian in a movie = Thug.”
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! I’m still laughing. You’re so transparent. But I’ll bite. That is not the logic I used nor implied -and you know it. I’m not to even respond in detail to that twisted nonsense. Next……
”No Ntsf, I asked you if you were a black man and you laughed.”
You did not ask me if I was a black man. Get it right bro. You said: “Are you a coon? You're black – right. Put down the pipe and go back and read what I said?”I responded to that question in great detail.
”Look Ntsf, You conceded the fact that the man has only been accused of a crime.”
And? I was being technically correct. Whenever someone is arrested or put on trial, they always preface the crime as “being charged with…” or “alleged…”. That’s the standard. When the person is convicted, then they say he/she was “convicted of…” or “committed such and such.” Again, that’s the standard. But it in no way denotes that the person is being falsely accused or that they did not perpetrate a crime. And you never explained why he was arrested in a home that was not his and charged with stealing $3,555 worth of jewelry and collectible coins. I’m still waiting for your response…..
”Then, you brushed off the fact that the man DOES make more money in one day than most of us make in a year,…”
There you go again. You just can’t get it right can you? You said he made more in one day than most people make in a year. I didn’t agree to that. You did. I don’t know what his yearly income is (and neither do you). If someone made only $30000 a year, Williams would make close to $11 million dollars a year (according to your statement). I read somewhere that he made $50 million in one year but that was not substantiated. I doubt very seriously if he makes that kind of money on a yearly basis. And if he made $100 million every year for the past ten years -so what?? What’s you point? Besides, once again, you tap danced around my question: If he made the money you believe does–why was in arrested for burglary and theft?
”….by implying that he doesn't BECAUSE HE BURGLARIZED THAT HOUSE.”
Do you read what you write? Or do you just write nonsense in hopes that no one will notice? Which is it?? I never said he did or did not. The statement was moot to me. My question was if he is making the money you believe he does –why has he been charged with burglary and theft? Get it right bro!
”Come on NTSF, that's weak and you know it.”
No. What you said (and have been saying) is weak…
”No, you don't want to debate. You want to do what you do and that's call black people coons... whenever your heart desires.”
Uhhhhh….Listen….I’m going to try one more time since it went over your head the first time. If you would please refer to what I clearly stated previously about what behavior I consider coonish -you will see what it constitutes. Behavior that is demonstrative of coonery is not indulged in nor practiced by the average black person. So, I don’t call black people coons just because they are black. When I use the term it is always prefaced with some form of inexcusable bad behavior. It’s a behavioral issue my friend –not a matter of just having black skin. You need to understand this before accusing me of stating things I did not say nor imply.
”Again, I've only heard you say it!”
So? That means the behavior (third time) does not exist since you have not heard anyone use the word? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Think again my brother, think again…… You’re forgetting something here Carey. I don’t need nor do I require the approval or the lexicon stamp of legitimacy to use the descriptive adjectives I choose. Maybe you need public approval but I don’t. Besides, I said this before and I’ll say it again; You are thug and criminal friendly. I am not. You condone and approve of coonery. I do not. Thus, we have a conflict of ideology and beliefs. We don’t agree. But the good thing is this; I’m sure there are many issues and subjects that you I do agree on. This subject just happens to be one in which we do not. So, why don’t we be civil and agree to disagree and move on. Hey, I’m a fair guy…..